On 8/8/18 2:17 PM, Funk, Quentin wrote:

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I'm trying to figure out what values I get from mri_glmfit as in the tutorial. <https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/GroupAnalysis>In particular, I'm interested in how I can compare these values to what I get from QDEC.

QDEC runs mri_glmfit, so they will be the same assuming you give it the same input, design, and contrast.


In that tutorial, the software does a linear regression for each gender and then computes a F_ratio for the two two fits. (How does this relate to the average in the contrast listed?)

If the average were 0, then you would have no result whereas the F test will test for any combination of  the two


The F_ratio then gives a way to get P-values (under certain assumptions)--so then from the F_ratio, pvals are computed--this leads to sig.mgh.


But what are the other files? The descriptions are a bit too vague for me to understand, unfortunately. The ones I'm interested in primarily are:


    pcc.mgh -- partial (pearson) correlation coefficient (surface overlay)

Do you know what a pearson correlation is? The pearson can only be computed between two sets of numbers. When you have multiple regression, you use a partial pearson.

    z.mgh -- z-stat that corresponds to the significance (surface overlay)

This is the p-value converted into a z.


The z-stat should be some sort of standard score--so a standard score of significance (so p-value?) compared to what distribution?


Second, what if I were interested in a different categorical variable--say I had a group of Alzheimer's patients and a group of Healthy patients. In QDEC, I click "diagnosis" as the variable to do the analysis on. What contrast does this correspond to? What type of linear fit is being compared--the slope of the regression with respect to age? If I leave out nuisance variables (like age), I should conceivably get an F-test between the two constant models, which should be more or less similar to a voxelwise t-test?

The contrast will be [-1 +1]. The sig.mgh will be the sig of the t-test (ie, a signed test).


Any help here is appreciated!


Quentin Funk, PhD
Houston Methodist Research Institute
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