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Hi Doug, thanks for your answer!

This particular case is surface area. I thought I was using the FWHM15 smoothed 
data from outputted by qcache.
I have no idea why FS tries to  call FWHM34 in the glmfit-sim step. Should I 
have specified somewhere else in the commands? I will attach the log files 
again.

Yes, I am aware I should be using permutation - I just wanted to run Monte 
Carlo again to compare results.
Permutation was in fact how I came to use dev since mri_surfcluster did not 
work with my MAC. I downloaded a new patch you linked in a previous post but it 
produced more errors (maybe was not compiled for MAC?). Then I just tried with 
dev and it worked for me. But then I ran into the FWHM34 thing with Monte 
Carlo...

Do you maybe have a mri_surfcluster available that will run permutation with 
MAC (High Sierra) and runs with the stable version?

Thanks again, I really appreciate your help!

Best,
Lea

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Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 12:07:01 -0400
From: "Douglas N. Greve" <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] glmfit-sim FWHM 34?
To: <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
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How much did you smooth by? Is this thickness, area, or volume? Also, in
general, you should not be using dev since it is an uncontrolled
distribution (ie, there are many things in there that have not been
tested). Also, I'm encouraging people to use permutation rather than
monte-carlo-based correction.


On 07/03/2018 11:40 AM, Backhausen, Lea wrote:
>
>
> Dear FreeSurfer experts,
>
> I am trying to do vertex-wise comparisons for thickness, surface area
> and volume between three groups with glmfit.
> Currently I am using the dev version (--------
> freesurfer-darwin-OSX-ElCapitan-dev-20180627-4a8f901 --------) on Mac
> since I ran into problems with mri_surfcluster when using permutation
> for multiple comparison correction. That seems to work fine with the
> dev version.
>
> When running Monte Carlo simulation with glmfit-sim I ran into the
> following error message:
> ERROR: cannot find
> /Applications/freesurfer/average/mult-comp-cor/fsaverage/lh/cortex/fwhm34/abs/th33/mc-z.csd
>
> When I checked, the folder fm34 did not exist. But now I am wondering
> why FreeSurfer is trying to use FWHM34 from the beginning as I used
> FWHM15 for smoothing in the preprocession step. I see in the
> glmfit.log "ResidualFWHM 33.582634" - did I have to specify the
> smoothing kernel anywhere else ecxept from the preprocessing step?
>
> Please find attached the log files for preprocessing, glmfit and
> glmfit-sim.
> Thank you so much for any help!
>
> Best
> Lea
>
>
>
> Lea Backhausen, B.Sc.
>
> Student Research Assistant

Lea Backhausen, B.Sc.

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Attachment: cache.mri_glmfit-sim.log
Description: cache.mri_glmfit-sim.log

Attachment: mri_glmfit.log
Description: mri_glmfit.log

Attachment: rh.area.ADHD_COM_TD.15.mris_preproc.log
Description: rh.area.ADHD_COM_TD.15.mris_preproc.log

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