Thank you Doug. Is the one that doesn't fail okay?

Best,

Fred

> On Sep 5, 2017, at 16:57, Douglas N Greve <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
> 
> in the one that fails you are including the binary gender as a 
> continuous variable, which will fail in FSGD. All catagorical variables 
> need to be coded as classes. see 
> https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsgdExamples
> 
> 
>> On 09/05/2017 03:07 PM, Uquillas, Federico D'Oleire wrote:
>> Dear Doug,
>> 
>> Sending the FSGD described in our original email as failing due to it being 
>> "ill-conditioned or badly scaled" with DOSS [0 1 0 0 0]. It is titled 
>> "FAILS_N47_edited_BL_CT_PiB_centAge_fsgd.txt".
>> 
>> The other one is the one that runs and gives expected results with a DOSS 
>> contrast [0 1 0 0].
>> 
>> Thanks so much.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Fred
>> 
>> ________________________________________
>> From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
>> [freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] on behalf of Douglas N Greve 
>> [gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 12:01 PM
>> To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] controlling for Sex in a model using two 
>> continuous variables onto CTh
>> 
>> can you send the fsgd file for the analysis that is failing?
>> 
>> 
>>> On 08/29/2017 02:29 PM, Uquillas, Federico D'Oleire wrote:
>>> Dear FreeSurfer experts,
>>> 
>>> We have run a vertex-wise analysis regressing a continuous variable
>>> onto cortical thickness on the surface, and would like to verify that
>>> our contrast that uses Age and Sex as covariates was defined
>>> correctly, especially since there is probably more than one way to
>>> control for a binary variable like Sex.
>>> 
>>> On the website (https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/DodsDoss) it
>>> suggests to make two regressors, one for Males, and one for Females,
>>> where for the former a 1 is indicative of the Male category, and a 1
>>> on the latter is indicative of the Female category. However, using
>>> that FSGD file and running a DOSS contrast as [0 1 0 0 0], we get the
>>> error: matrix is ill-condition or badly scaled, condno=2.01889e+07.
>>> We believe this may be due to the fact that Male and Female categories
>>> are autocorrelated and Freesurfer likes variables to be de-meaned.
>>> Running a FSGD file with only Age and our variable of interest via a
>>> DOSS contrast of [0 1 0] works without any errors.
>>> 
>>> We thus created an FSGD file where we have Sex as our third variable
>>> (in addition to our continuous variable of interest and one demeaned
>>> continuous covariate), coding 1s for Males and 0s for Females, and we
>>> used a DOSS contrast of [0 1 0 0]. This provided us with a map that
>>> makes sense with our expectations.
>>> 
>>> We would like to verify if this is doing what we believe it is doing;
>>> that is, looking at the relationship of our continuous variable or
>>> interest after accounting for age and sex.
>>> Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thank you so much.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Fred
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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