p.s. did 5.3 do better? Did you try it with -bigventricles? The ventricles on this subject are extremely large. On Sun, 7 May 2017, Knut J Bjuland wrote:

Hi Bruce

I have uploaded the subject as subject_7.tar.gz and subject_7.zip at transf
er/incoming on surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
I can also upload the same subject where I used fs53. 


Thanks
Knut Jørgen

      On 7 May 2017, at 16:26, Bruce Fischl
      <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:

Hi Knut

the best would be if you can just tar and gzip the entire subject dir
and upload it according to these dirs:

https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FtpFileExchange

cheers
Bruce
On Sat, 6 May 2017, Knut J Bjuland wrote:

      Hi Bruce
      Where should I upload  orig.mgz, nu.mgz, aseg.mgz and
      voxel cords?
      Knut Jørgen 
___________________________________________________________________________
      _
      From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
      <freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of
      Bruce Fischl
      <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
      Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 4:44:49 PM
      To: Freesurfer support list
      Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Differences in aseg volumes
      between FreeSurfer
      5.3.0 and FreeSurfer 6.0  
      Include the orig.mgz and voxel cords and I'll see if I
      have already fixed it
      On May 5, 2017, at 10:11 AM, Knut J Bjuland
      <knutjor...@outlook.com> wrote:

           Hi Bruce
I found some filled-in occipital horn and some in the anterior parts. I can

 upload nu.mgz and aseg.mgz for a subject with problems with lateral ventri

      cle.   
      Cheers
      Knut Jørgen

           On 4 May 2017, at 16:54, Bruce Fischl
           <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
      Hi Knut
      where is it being filled? If it is the occipital horn we
      may
      soon have a patch for it
      cheers
      Bruce
      On Thu, 4 May 2017, Knut J Bjuland wrote:

           Hi
Are there any options that I can use in Freesurfer 6.0 that can prevent lef

t lateral ventricle from being filled with WM? Should I send the MPRAGE seq


           uence information?   
           Knut Jørgen

                On 2 May 2017, at 17:57, Douglas Greve
                <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
           This is a test we do before we release. The averages
           don't look out of
           line. Putamen should be smaller because we now try
           to remove
           claustrum. Small structures may have some large
           percent differences.
           Some structures are not that meaningful (like the CC
           because it has no
           real boundaries). The left lateral ventricle may be
           a problem. I've
           seen cases where it totally gets filled in with WM
           in v6. Others are
           hard to define -- when I would look at the scans
           there would not be a
           good case for rejecting one and accepting the other
           (eg, pallidum and
           thalamus don't have good contrast at typical mprage
           acq parameters).
           On 5/2/17 3:56 AM, Knut J Bjuland wrote:
                Dear FreeSurfer experts,
            
When I ran Freesurfer 5.3 and Freesurfer 6.0 I ran with default settings us

ing this command. recon-all -s (id) -all for both Freesurfer 5.3 and FreeSu


           rfer 6.0.
Are these differences larger than one would expect? I think that 100% may b

e a little high? The difference in volume between Freesurfer 5.3 and Freesu


           rfer 6.0 is shown in the table below calculated using asegstatsdiff.
            
           Knut Jørgen Bjuland 
           Volume name
           Mean(range)
           Left-Lateral-Ventricle
           7.4  (-0.13,130.72)
           Left-Cerebellum-White-Matter
           0.64  (-22.9,56.15)
           Left-Cerebellum-Cortex
           7.56  (-10.3,19.17)
           Left-Thalamus-Proper
           0.12  (-16.31,32.42)
           Left-Caudate
           -4.25  (-12,33.64)
           Left-Putamen
           -16.72  (-27.99,8.3)
           Left-Pallidum
           16.23  (-22.94,84.75)
           Left-Hippocampus
           -1.74  (-13.53,15.93)
           Left-Amygdala
           2.29  (-19.28,41.04)
           Right-Lateral-Ventricle
           4.6  (-24.77,102.12)
           Right-Cerebellum-White-Matter
           -3.2  (-20.87,49.37)
           Right-Cerebellum-Cortex
           4.88  (-12.99,14.36)
           Right-Thalamus-Proper
           1.06  (-22.34,19.99)
           Right-Caudate
           -6.08  (-14.59,6.13)
           Right-Putamen
           -12.87  (-31.37,10.17)
           Right-Pallidum
           14.01  (-27.79,89.19)
           Right-Hippocampus
           -1.71  (-9.29,12.02)
           Right-Amygdala
           3.74  (-18.6,51.01)
           Right-Accumbens-area
           -9.14  (-37.89,61.02)
           CC_Posterior
           22.07  (-47.04,525.51)
           CC_Mid_Posterior
           53.59  (-11.3,537.3)
           CC_Central
           36.77  (-21.36,317.24)
           CC_Mid_Anterior
           24.09  (-18.86,128.31)
           CC_Anterior
           10.64  (-33.71,152.33)
           lhCortexVol
           3.13  (-1.31,12.37)
           rhCortexVol
           3.16  (-0.36,14.2)
           CortexVol
           3  (-4.47,13.26)
           EstimatedTotalIntraCranialVol
           0.65  (-0.05,26.52)

                On 21 Apr 2017, at 20:01, Knut J Bjuland
                <knutjor...@outlook.com> wrote:
           Dear FreeSurfer expert, 
            
I have compared the aseg volume between FreeSurfer 5.3 and FreeSurfer 6.0 w

ith asegstatsdiff from FreeSurfer 6.0 for each subject in my data set. I ha

ve enclosed the range for some of the volume. I found the largest differenc

es in subcortical structures, especially in Corpus callosum(CC). I found th

at FreeSurfer 6.0 CC posterior volume was 525.51 % larger than in FreeSurfe


     r 5.3. Nevertheless, these differences were much smaller for lhCortex,
       but
???also here FreeSurfer 6.0 was on average larger than FreeSurfer 5.3. I ra
      n

?? ?t
he FreeSurfer 6.0 using the same option as FreeSurfer 5.30. Both versions o


           f FreeSurfer were run on Centos. I am also enclosing
           a
           table with mean values along with min and max  for
           differences between FreeSurfer 5.3 and FreeSurfer
           6.0 aseg
           volumes.
            
            
           Best regards
           Knut Jørgen Bjuland PhD
           NTNU
           Left-Lateral-Ventricle
           7.4  (-0.13,130.72)
           Left-Cerebellum-White-Matter
           0.64  (-22.9,56.15)
           Left-Cerebellum-Cortex
           7.56  (-10.3,19.17)
           Left-Thalamus-Proper
           0.12  (-16.31,32.42)
           Left-Caudate
           -4.25  (-12,33.64)
           Left-Putamen
           -16.72  (-27.99,8.3)
           Left-Pallidum
           16.23  (-22.94,84.75)
           Left-Hippocampus
           -1.74  (-13.53,15.93)
           Left-Amygdala
           2.29  (-19.28,41.04)
           Right-Lateral-Ventricle
           4.6  (-24.77,102.12)
           Right-Cerebellum-White-Matter
           -3.2  (-20.87,49.37)
           Right-Cerebellum-Cortex
           4.88  (-12.99,14.36)
           Right-Thalamus-Proper
           1.06  (-22.34,19.99)
           Right-Caudate
           -6.08  (-14.59,6.13)
           Right-Putamen
           -12.87  (-31.37,10.17)
           Right-Pallidum
           14.01  (-27.79,89.19)
           Right-Hippocampus
           -1.71  (-9.29,12.02)
           Right-Amygdala
           3.74  (-18.6,51.01)
           Right-Accumbens-area
           -9.14  (-37.89,61.02)
           CC_Posterior
           22.07  (-47.04,525.51)
           CC_Mid_Posterior
           53.59  (-11.3,537.3)
           CC_Central
           36.77  (-21.36,317.24)
           CC_Mid_Anterior
           24.09  (-18.86,128.31)
           CC_Anterior
           10.64  (-33.71,152.33)
           lhCortexVol
           3.13  (-1.31,12.37)
           rhCortexVol
           3.16  (-0.36,14.2)
           CortexVol
           3  (-4.47,13.26)
           EstimatedTotalIntraCranialVol
           0.65  (-0.05,26.52)
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