I just realized there wasn't a question in my email below.

Is there a way to get a group z-map that is thresholded at some
statistically meaningful threshold (ie. cluster size p value) without
using mri_glmsim
and mri_glmfit? If not, how might I specify a timeseries in the design
matrix?

Thank you!
Eun Young


On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Eun Young Choi <cho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Doug,
>
> Sorry for the confusion. I currently have individual and group mean fcMRI
> z-maps from a seed based resting-state analysis (non GLM), but I could also
> do a GLM-involved analysis for each subject with the seed's timeseries as a
> regressor. My ultimate goal is have a group z-map that is thresholded at
> some statistically meaningful threshold. I've tried Bonferroni and FDR
> corrections, but they're not stringent enough (i.e., even weak correlations
> are highly significant). So I started looking into doing a cluster
> size-based correction threshold, which brought me to mri_glmsim and
> mri_glmfit. But if there's a way to threshold a group zmap without
> mri_glmsim, I could do that.
>
> Let me know if I can explain further. Thank you!
> Eun Young
>
>
> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Douglas N Greve <
> gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
>
>> I guess I'm unclear as to what you are trying to do. Are you trying to
>> do a time series analysis of the resting state to extract, eg,
>> correlation with a seed? Or have you already done your time series
>> analysis on each subject, reducing each to a single number at each
>> voxel, and now you are doing a group analysis?
>> doug
>>
>> On 05/05/2016 11:44 AM, Eun Young Choi wrote:
>> > Thanks, Doug.
>> >
>> > I'm still a little unclear about how to set up a timeseries regressor
>> > (120 timepoints) in the design matrix while also specifying the # of
>> > subjects (500). Would the design matrix be a 500x120 or 120x500?
>> >
>> > I should mention that my ultimate goal is to find a statistically sig.
>> > threshold for a cortical fcMRI map with 500 subjects. Traditional
>> > correction for multiple comparisons, like Bonferroni and FDR, are not
>> > sufficient. So I'd now like to find a cluster size-based correction
>> > threshold using mri_glm-sim. Hence, my desire to create the cortical
>> > fcMRI map using mri_glmfit, so I can get the files needed for
>> > mri_glm-sim. Is this an okay approach, or is there a better way to do
>> > this?
>> >
>> > Thank you so much,
>> > Eun Young
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Douglas N Greve
>> > <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     We don't usually use mri_glmfit for this kind of thing. If you want
>> to
>> >     do it this way, then you cannot use an FSGD file. Instead, create a
>> >     design matrix with the seed time course then pass that to mri_glmfit
>> >     with the --X option (and no --fsgd option).
>> >
>> >     On 05/04/2016 10:17 AM, Eun Young Choi wrote:
>> >     >
>> >     > Hi all,
>> >     >
>> >     > I'd like to run a resting-state fcMRI analysis within the GLM
>> >     > (mri_glmfit), but I'm not completely sure how to set this up in
>> the
>> >     > FSGD file. I've seen the online tutorial of age vs cortical
>> >     thickness,
>> >     > but I'm not sure how to specify a regressor with a timeseries.
>> Does
>> >     > anyone have an example of an FSGD file for this?
>> >     >
>> >     > Thanks!
>> >     > Eun Young
>> >     >
>> >     >
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