On 11/27/2015 08:42 PM, nellie wrote:
> Hi expert,
> Thank you for your reply. I had read the example tables, but I'm still 
> not sure how to alter them into my analysis.Can you help me to check 
> the matrix I designed and point out my mistakes? Thanks in advence.
> 3 classes ( A / B / C group) and 4 variables (gender, age, education, and 
> Moca test score).
Gender has to be specified as a group, so you will have 6 classes 
(A-male, A-female, etc)
> group.diff.mtx         1 -1 0  0 0 0   0 0 0   0 0 0   0 0 0
This would only test the difference between A and B. If you wan to look 
for an effect of group, then you will need a 2nd row which is
1 0 -1 000 000 000 000
> group-x-gender.mtx     0 0 0   1 -1 0  0 0 0   0 0 0   0 0 0
> group-x-age.mtx        0 0 0   0 0 0   1 -1 0  0 0 0   0 0 0
> group-x-education.mtx  0 0 0   0 0 0   0 0 0   1 -1 0  0 0 0
> group-x-moca.mtx       0 0 0   0 0 0   0 0 0   0 0 0   1 -1 0
Same as above. You need a 2nd row to each of these
> group-x-gender-x-age-x-education.mtx
>                         0 0 0  1 -1 0  0 0 0    0 0 0   0 0 0
>                         0 0 0  0 0 0   1 -1 0   0 0 0   0 0 0
>                         0 0 0  0 0 0   0 0 0    1 -1 0  0 0 0
> group-x-gender-x-age-x-education-x-moca.mtx
>                         0 0 0  1 -1 0  0 0 0    0 0 0   0 0 0
>                         0 0 0  0 0 0   1 -1 0   0 0 0   0 0 0
>                         0 0 0  0 0 0   0 0 0    1 -1 0  0 0 0
>                      0 0 0  0 0 0   0 0 0    0 0 0  1 -1 0
These two will be easier when you get the other matrices sorted out
> group.diff.mtx also can write as:   1 0 0  0 0 0   0 0 0   0 0 0   0 0 0
>                                                        0 1 0  0 0 0   0 0 0   
> 0 0 0   0 0 0
>                                                        0 0 1  0 0 0   0 0 0   
> 0 0 0   0 0 0
This does not compute a group difference, it looks for any voxel where 
any group or combination of groups is different than 0
> group-x-age.mtx aslo can write as:  0 0 0  1 0 0  0 0 0   0 0 0   0 0 0
>                                                           0 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 0 
>   0 0 0   0 0 0
>                                                           0 0 0  0 0 1  0 0 0 
>   0 0 0   0 0 0         
same as above
>                       
> .
> Wishes,
> Li
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> >Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 10:27:42 -0500 (EST)
> >From: Lee Tirrell <ltirr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
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> >Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] How to create a 3g4v matrix
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> >Hi Li,
> >
> >You can find some example FSGD tables here, which you can alter to fit your
> >analyses.
> >
> >https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsgdExamples
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> >Best,
> >Lee
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> >On Sun, 22 Nov 2015, nellie wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Hi Freesurfer Experts,
> >>
> >> I?m a new user of Freesurfer, and I learn how to use this software mainly 
> >> through Wiki. When I came to the step of using GLM to compare group 
> >> differences, I was confused on the design of 3g4v matrix. In my study, 
> >> there were 3 classes (
> >> A / B / C group) and 4 concomitant?variables (gender, age, education, and 
> >> Moca test score). It?s supposed to be 15 regressors in this design, but I 
> >> don?t know how to use the numbers (like 1, -1, 0, 0.5, -0.5, etc.) to 
> >> create a correct
> >> matrix. I wonder if you could provide a 3g4v matrix in detail for me. I?ll 
> >> be grateful if you can help. I hope I?m not bothering you too much, and 
> >> I?m looking for your reply.
> >>
> >> Best wishes,
> >>
> >> Li?
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