Hi Ajay

can you explain your entire processing stream, including the details of the acquisition? What sequence/coil/scanner was used? You could fix your problem by looking at the defects on the inflated.nofix, overlaying lh.defect_labels on it to see where they are, then figuring out what caused them in the volume. However, there is a bug in mris_fix_topology that only comes up when it encounters a large enough defect (with nvertices>200,000). The code tries to avoid running it's normal genetic algorithm as it would take days (or weeks) to finish, since it scales with the square of the number of vertices. I haven't figured out what is going wrong yet, but hopefully will have a code fix soon.

cheers
Bruce


On Tue, 1 Dec 2015, Ajay Kurani wrote:

Hi Bruce,  When looking at my top slices in brain ask I noticed that the
gray/white matter shows but the darker areas surrounding it are not present
(this usually goes to the edge of the brain).  Could the large defects be a
result of having masked this out on the input file?  I multiplied the
template with the GM/WM/CSF masks they provided to get the brain extracted
so I only see this missing in the very top few slices of the brain.

Thanks,
Ajay

On Tuesday, December 1, 2015, Bruce Fischl <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
wrote:
      Hi Falk

      I don't think you need to rerun the qsphere. I'm pretty sure
      this is a bug in mris_fix_topology for giant defects, but
      haven't finished tracking it down yet

      cheers
      Bruce


      On Tue, 1 Dec 2015, Falk Lüsebrink wrote:


            Hi Ajay,

             

            you should

             

            cp ?h.orig.nofix ?h.orig

            cp ?h.inflated.nofix ?h.inflated

             

            with ? being l or r depending your hemisphere.
            After the fixing stage the
            surfaces got damaged somehow, therefore you have to
            recreate it them. I’m
            not entirely sure about the qsphere. Probably you
            have to run the -qsphere
            stage again also.

             

            Best,

            Falk

             

             

            Von: Ajay Kurani [mailto:dr.ajay.kur...@gmail.com]
            Gesendet: Montag, 30. November 2015 21:50
            An: Falk Lüsebrink
            Cc: Freesurfer support list; Bruce Fischl
            Betreff: Re: [Freesurfer] Freesurfer 6.0 -
            Autorecon2 failure
            (mris_euler_number) using high res (0.5mm
            isotropic) T1 image

             

            Hi Falk,

               I used the command and got the following error:

            Command: ris_topo_fixer -mgz -warning -seed 1234
            ICBM lh
            mris_topo_fixer -mgz -warning -seed 1234 ICBM lh
            INFO: assuming .mgz format
            setting seed for random number genererator to 1234
            reading 
inputsurface/home/imuser/Downloads/mni_icbm152_nlin_sym_09b_nifti/mni_icbm152_n
            lin_sym
            _09b/ICBM/surf/lh.orig...
mrisFindNeighbors:/home/imuser/Downloads/mni_icbm152_nlin_sym_09b_nifti/mn
            i_icbm152_nlin_sym
            _09b/ICBM/surf/lh.orig: face[46196].v[0] = 24215,
            but face 46196 not in
            vertex 24215 face list

            mris_topo_fixer -mgz -warning -seed 1234 ICBM rh
            INFO: assuming .mgz format
            setting seed for random number genererator to 1234
            reading 
inputsurface/home/imuser/Downloads/mni_icbm152_nlin_sym_09b_nifti/mni_icbm152_n
            lin_sym
            _09b/ICBM/surf/rh.orig...
mrisFindNeighbors:/home/imuser/Downloads/mni_icbm152_nlin_sym_09b_nifti/mn
            i_icbm152_nlin_sym
            _09b/ICBM/surf/rh.orig: face[35822].v[2] = 18903,
            but face 35822 not in
            vertex 18903 face list

            Any suggestions would be appreciated.

            Thanks,

            Ajay

             

            On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 2:41 AM, Falk Lüsebrink
            <falk.luesebr...@ovgu.de>
            wrote:

            Hi Ajay,

            I ran into the same error processing hires data a
            while ago using a nightly
            build of centos 6 with the hires flag only. Disk
            space or alike wasn't an
            issue. I ran mris_topo_fixer instead of
            mris_fix_topology to get working
            surfaces.

            Best,
            Falk

            -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
            Von: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
            [mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] Im
            Auftrag von Bruce Fischl
            Gesendet: Sonntag, 29. November 2015 22:48
            An: Freesurfer support list
            Betreff: Re: [Freesurfer] Freesurfer 6.0 -
            Autorecon2 failure
            (mris_euler_number) using high res (0.5mm
            isotropic) T1 image

            Hi Ajay

            are you sure you didn't run out of disk space? That
            error is a sanity check
            on the surfaces that should never occur

            cheers
            Bruce

            On Sun, 29 Nov 2015, Ajay
            Kurani wrote:

            > Hello Freesurfer experts,
            >    I am trying to run Freesurfer 6.0 beta
            (downloaded 10/15/15
            > version) with the -hires flag to process an MNI
            template image which
            > is 0.5mm isotropic.  Stage 1 ran well and on
            stage 2 there is an error
            > during
            > pocessing:
            >
            > Command run:
            > recon-all -s ICBM -autorecon2 -openmp 8 -3T
            -hires -expert expert.opts
            >
            > I supplied a skull stripped brain which was nu
            corrected and so I used
            > the T1.mgz and copied it to brainmask.mgz and
            nu.mgz in autorecon1
            > stage.  I then ran autorecon2 and it was working
            well until I was at
            > the -fix stage and ran into the following error:
            >
            >
            > Error:
            > mris_euler_number ./surf/lh.orig
            > mrisFindNeighbors: ./surf/lh.orig:
            face[46196].v[0] = 24215, but face
            > 46196 not in vertex 24215 face list
            >
            >
            >
            > I am not sure if this is due to the fact that we
            have a very high
            > resolution image (template) and if there are any
            modifications needed
            > aside from the hires flag.  Are there any
            suggestions you have?
            >
            > Thanks,
            > Ajay
            >
            >

             





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