Hi Trinh

why is that a problem? The post-fixing surfaces (pial, white, inflated, etc...) are supposed to have 0 holes/handles. In the tutorial it is not that the topo fixer doesn't give the right topology - it always does. Rather, the correction of the topology causes an incorrect geometry that you need to fix.

cheers
Bruce

On Fri, 9 Oct 2015, Thục Trinh wrote:

Hi Bruce,
I am still confusing about my subjects'recon that I still doubt my skill on
detecting the topological error. Therefore, I practice on the FStutorial
data and run the mris_euler_number on the "topo_defect_before" to see what
happens. The result returns me with 0 holes for all ?h.pial, ?h.white and
?h.inflated.

Can you help me with this problem.

Thank,
Trinh

2015-10-05 23:09 GMT+07:00 Bruce Fischl <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>:
      Hi Trinh

      the inflated.nofix files are the ones before the topology fixer
      so they will always have defects in them

      cheers
      Bruce
      On Mon, 5 Oct 2015, Thục Trinh wrote:

            Hi Bruce,
            I did check the output recon by using
            mris_euler_number, all the results of
            ?h.pial, ?.white and also ?h.inflated returned with:
            0 holes. But the result
            from lh.inflated.nofix was: 28 holes.
            When I load the 3D images of ?h.inflated.nofix in
            freeview, it appears alot
            of holes and also handles errors.
            I wonder about the differences between ?h.inflated
            and ?h.inflated.nofix. If
            we want to estimate the quality of recon output,
            what images we should use?

            Thanks and Have a nice day,

            Trinh 

            2015-10-02 19:33 GMT+07:00 Bruce Fischl
            <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>:
                  Hi Trinh

                  can you just attach the images? Your link
            didn't work for me.
                  You can check the topology of the surface
            computationally using
                  mris_euler_number. You might also try moving
            backwards/forwards
                  a few slices to try to understand what is
            going on.

                  cheers
                  Bruce

                  On Fri, 2 Oct 2015, Thục Trinh wrote:



                        ​[icon_10_generic_list.png]
             NCP140539_2_recon.rar
                        ​Hi Freesurfer Experts,

                        We are on the process of troubleshooting
            our
                        subjects's recon and we came
                        across with this error that we can not
            determine
                        what kind of problem this
                        is: 
                        It seems there is no white matter and
            pial errors on
                        all slices as we check
                        on three different views
            (sagital,coronal and
                        axial);however, when we load
                        rh.inflated.nofix surface on both
            freeview and
                        tksurfer, there is a big
                        difference that at the frontal cortex
            (area near the
                        medial wall), it
                        appears a handle error and also some
            hole errors on
                        freeview while it does
                        not on tksurfer.
                        Would you explain how it is visualized
            that makes us
                        so confused to
                        troubleshoot since we can not find
            anything wrong on
                        white matter volume to
                        be fixed?
                        Here is our data,

                        Have a nice day,

                        Trinh



                 
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