Hi Ali

it's not that I know that the quality is fine. It might be (or not), but this seems to be a perl error that doesn't have to do with quality
Bruce
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015, Ali Radaideh wrote:
Dear Bruce and ​Jürgen,

Now I see something important which may help solving the problem.

I have 31 PCs in my lab and all of them are installed with UBUNTU 14.04. 30
PCs were able to process all 47 subjects successfully. But failed to process
the remaining 8 subjects. Fortunately, one PC is installed with UBUNTU
13.01. I managed to installed the tcsh and csh after update and then run two
of the failed subjects so far successfully. I concluded it is the
installation version of UBUNTU. So 13.01 works fine but not 14.04.

I tried to re-install 13.01 on another PC, and I did that successfully.
However, but when I come to install the tcsh, after update it fails and it
says it is unable to locate the package tcsh (the reason is that 13.01 has
not longer packages to download.

As a summary,

one PC with 13.01 UBUNTU is running OK (but with the tcsh installed)
another OC with 13.01 is not running because I was not able to install tcsh
after update

I am now think of copying the tcsh from one pc to the 13.01 PC to make it
running but still trying.

I think as Bruce said, it is something wrong with the installation as the
quality is fine.

I hope I was able to clarify the problem and hope to receive any helpful
answer.

Many thanks in advance

Ali



On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Bruce Fischl <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
wrote:
      Hi
​​Jürgen and Ali

I don't think it has anything to do with the quality of the data, but
we are also happy to take a look if you upload one subject. This seems
more like an installation issue, and I would think it would happen on
every subject. Did someone upgrade perl at somepoint? Or just some
paths?


cheers
Bruce

On Sun, 30 Aug 2015, Jürgen Hänggi wrote:

      Dear Ali

      instead of downgrading perl you can use the perlbrew tool
      that allow to
      install several perls in parallel and switch between perl
      versions.
      if you are able to install perl 5.12 (perlbrew install
      5.12, you can see the
      available perl versions with perlbrew available) and then
      use 
      perlbrew use 5.12 before running recon-all in the
      terminal.

      Does it work?

      Cheers
      Jürgen


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      Von: <freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of
      Ali Radaideh
      <ali.radai...@hu.edu.jo>
      Antworten an: Freesurfer Mailinglist
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      Datum: Samstag, 29. August 2015 15:56
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      Betreff: Re: [Freesurfer] MRITOTAL

            Dear Jürgen,

      Thanks for your reply. Could you please guide me on how to
      downgrade
      it? I need to try everything with these 8 subjects to
      finish the whole
      cohort of subjects.

      Your help is so appreciated.

      Thanks,
      Ali

      On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Jürgen Hänggi
      <j.haen...@psychologie.uzh.ch> wrote:
            Dear Ali


      if Talairach alignment is not of good quality, then
      mritotal is
      used and the shellwords.pl problem is related to the fact
      that
      you have a newer version of perl that no longer contain
      shellwords.pl.

      you can downgrade perl to 5.12 or so, which however, is
      not a
      good idea.


      I have no other solution


      Cheers

      Jürgen



      Von: <freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of
      Ali
      Radaideh <ali.radai...@hu.edu.jo>
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      <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
      Datum: Samstag, 29. August 2015 13:41
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      Betreff: [Freesurfer] MRITOTAL

            Dear FreeSurfer experts,

      I have sent email 10 days ago asking for a help with
      processing 8 out of 55 subjects who failed to pass the
      Talairach phase and gave me the following error:

      tmpdir is transforms/tmp.talairach.5272
/media/ali/HU_Research/HU_Research/HU/MS_Project/MS_analysis/ANALYZE_FILES/

      MS_patients/freesurfer_test/Images_test/Samer/mri
      mri_convert orig_nu.mgz
      transforms/tmp.talairach.5272/src.mnc
      mri_convert orig_nu.mgz
      transforms/tmp.talairach.5272/src.mnc 
      $Id: mri_convert.c,v 1.179.2.7 2012/09/05 21:55:16 mreuter
      Exp $
      reading from orig_nu.mgz...
      TR=0.00, TE=0.00, TI=0.00, flip angle=0.00
      i_ras = (-1, 0, 0)
      j_ras = (0, 0, -1)
      k_ras = (0, 1, 0)
      writing to transforms/tmp.talairach.5272/src.mnc...
      --------------------------------------------
      mritotal -verbose -debug -clobber -modeldir
      /usr/local/freesurfer/mni/bin/../share/mni_autoreg
      -protocol icbm transforms/tmp.talairach.5272/src.mnc
      transforms/talairach.auto.xfm
      Can't locate shellwords.pl in @INC (@INC contains:
      /usr/local/freesurfer/mni/bin/../lib/mni_autoreg
      /usr/local/freesurfer/mni/lib/perl5/5.8.5 /etc/perl
      /usr/local/lib/perl/5.18.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.18.2
      /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.18
      /usr/share/perl/5.18 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at
      /usr/local/freesurfer/mni/bin/mritotal line 460.
      ERROR: mritotal failed, see transforms/talairach.log
      Linux ali-XPS-L501X 3.19.0-27-generic #29~14.04.1-Ubuntu
      SMP Sun Aug 16 01:51:13 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64
      GNU/Linux

      recon-all -s Samer exited with ERRORS at Sat Aug 29
      07:27:06 EDT 2015

      For more details, see the 
logfile/media/ali/HU_Research/HU_Research/HU/MS_Project/MS_analysis/ANALYZE_FI
      LES/
      MS_patients/freesurfer_test/Images_test/Samer/scripts/recon-all.log
      To report a problem, see
      http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting


      Please, is there any way I can force this phase to run? I
      have checked the images and they look fine but I dont know
      why they failed.

      Please your response is so important to my project as
      everything is pending.

      Many thanks in advance

      Ali

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