Hi Annie,

Can you tell us the exact mri_surf2surf command you use?

Cheers,
Thomas

On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 5:24 PM, 陳昱潔 <poohann1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Dr. Yeo,
>
> Thank you very much for your help! It is the exactly we need!
> Only a little question that when we ran mris_surf2surf
> Something seems wrong , but I can't figure out.
>     annot file:
> /home/annie/test_run_allindex/fsaverage5/label/lh.Yeo2011_17Networks_N1000.annot
> MRISreadAnnotationIntoArray: vertex index out of range: 152420 i=00A4F8DC,
> in_array_size=10242
>     annot file:
> /home/annie/test_run_allindex/fsaverage5/label/lh.Yeo2011_17Networks_N1000.annot
> MRISreadAnnotationIntoArray: vertex index out of range: 152421 i=00A4F8DC,
> in_array_size=10242
>     annot file:
> /home/annie/test_run_allindex/fsaverage5/label/lh.Yeo2011_17Networks_N1000.annot
> MRISreadAnnotationIntoArray: vertex index out of range: 152422 i=00010101,
> in_array_size=10242
>     annot file:
> /home/annie/test_run_allindex/fsaverage5/label/lh.Yeo2011_17Networks_N1000.annot\
> reading colortable from annotation file...
> colortable with 18 entries read (originally MyColorLUT)
> Reading target surface reg
> /home/annie/test_run_allindex/5204/surf/lh.sphere.reg
> Done
> Mapping Source Volume onto Source Subject Surface
> surf2surf_nnfr: building source hash (res=16).
> Surf2Surf: Forward Loop (160564)
>
> Surf2Surf: Dividing by number of hits (160564)
> INFO: nSrcLost = 0
> nTrg121 = 160564, nTrgMulti =     0, MnTrgMultiHits = 0
> nSrc121 =     0, nSrcLost =     0, nSrcMulti = 10242, MnSrcMultiHits =
> 15.677
> Saving target data
> Converting to target annot
> Saving to target annot
> /home/annie/test_run_allindex/5204/label/lh.Yeo2011_17Networks_N1000.annot
>
>
> Sorry for giving such long code. But it seems the vertex number didn't
> match.
> Or just something goes wrong while I proceed.
>
> Best,
> Annie
>
> 2015-05-14 4:54 GMT-04:00 Thomas Yeo <ytho...@csail.mit.edu>:
>
>> Hi Annie,
>>
>> I have previously extracted individual regions from the 7 and 17
>> networks. You can download them here
>>
>> (https://www.dropbox.com/s/u23nn3ov18tlhfs/Yeo_JNeurophysiol11_SplitLabels.zip?dl=0).
>> Please see the README in the folder for more explanations. There
>> should be a precuneus DMN region.
>>
>> The 17 networks consist of 114 regions that have been previously
>> published:
>>
>> 1) Krienen et al., Reconfigurable state-dependent functional coupling
>> modes cluster around a core functional architecture. Philosophical
>> Transactions of the Royal Society B, 369:20130526, 2014
>>
>> 2) Yeo et al., Functional connectivity during rested wakefulness
>> predicts vulnerability to sleep deprivation. Neuroimage 111:147-158,
>> 2015
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Thomas
>>
>> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 3:08 PM, 陳昱潔 <poohann1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hello Dr. Yeo,
>> >
>> > Thank you for your previous help and reply. We've worked out the way to
>> > switch the resolution of parcellation and successfully extracted the
>> > anatomical information using your mask derived from iFC work.
>> >
>> > However, we came across a new problem to apply the cortical mask and
>> > need
>> > your kind help again. We aim to conduct a seed-based analysis to
>> > investigate
>> > structural covariance based on the network defined by iFC, and find your
>> > work of cortical parcellation conceptually perfectly suit our research
>> > question. Based on the current approach, however, it seemed that we
>> > could
>> > only extract the anatomical information from the whole well-defined
>> > network,
>> > but not the specific hub within the network (e.g., the anatomical
>> > information of the precuneus from the DMN). We wonder if you have any
>> > suggestion to resolve our problem, ie, to be specific, is there any way
>> > to
>> > only extract the discrete hub information rather than the whole network?
>> >
>> > We really appreciate your generous help. Thank you very much.
>> >
>> > p.s. This email would also forward to my senior colleague, Dr.
>> > Hsiang-Yuan
>> > Lin, who is a child and adolescent psychiatrist doing imaging research
>> > in
>> > Taiwan.
>> >
>> >
>> > 2015-05-13 19:15 GMT+08:00 陳昱潔 <poohann1...@gmail.com>:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Professor Yeo :
>> >>
>> >> Thank you for helping us so much!
>> >> After mris_anatomical_stat I tried aparcstats2table to extract the
>> >> table.
>> >> But I failed with generating the table.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Best wishes,
>> >> Annie
>> >>
>> >> 2015-05-12 8:29 GMT-04:00 Thomas Yeo <ytho...@csail.mit.edu>:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi Annie,
>> >>>
>> >>> I assume this means 5202 is your subject ID? Maybe you should check if
>> >>>
>> >>> /home/annie/test_run_allindex/5202/label/lh.Yeo2011_7Networks_N1000.annot
>> >>> exist?
>> >>>
>> >>> If so, you can run mris_anatomical_stats to generate statistics for
>> >>> the parcellation.
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers,
>> >>> Thomas
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 6:29 PM, 陳昱潔 <poohann1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> > Hi Professor Yeo :
>> >>> > After I rechecked the directory and run again mri_surf2surf
>> >>> > I got the result:
>> >>> > "Saving target data
>> >>> > Converting to target annot
>> >>> > Saving to target annot
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > /home/annie/test_run_allindex/5202/label/lh.Yeo2011_7Networks_N1000.annot"
>> >>> > The file of 5202/label didn't come out with
>> >>> > lh.Yeo2011_7Networks_N1000.annot
>> >>> > But it seems succeed, right?
>> >>> > How can I get the stat of this parcellation ?
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Thank you very much!
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Best wishes,
>> >>> > Annie
>> >>> >
>> >>> > 2015-05-12 6:06 GMT-04:00 Thomas Yeo <ytho...@csail.mit.edu>:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> Hi Annie,
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> mri_surf2surf is complaining that it cannot write out the
>> >>> >> annotation.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Just to clarify, is your subject called test_run_allindex? In other
>> >>> >> words, is the variable s equal to test_run_allindex?
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Does the directory "/home/annie/test_run_allindex/label/" exist? If
>> >>> >> not, then you first need to create the directory first, and then
>> >>> >> mri_surf2surf can write the resulting annotation file into the
>> >>> >> directory.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Cheers,
>> >>> >> Thomas
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 5:46 PM, 陳昱潔 <poohann1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >> > Hi Professor Yeo :
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >    We tried the code
>> >>> >> >>> mri_surf2surf --srcsubject fsaverage --trgsubject $s --hemi lh
>> >>> >> >>> --sval-annot
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>> $FREESURFER_HOME/subjects/fsaverage/label/lh.Yeo2011_7Networks_N1000.annot
>> >>> >> >>> --tval $SUBJECTS_DIR/$s/label/lh.Yeo2011_7Networks_N1000.annot
>> >>> >> > However there came an error of "could not write annot file
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > /home/annie/test_run_allindex/label/lh.Yeo2011_7Networks_N1000.annot
>> >>> >> > No such file or directory"
>> >>> >> > And we checked our individual subject's label there isn't
>> >>> >> > lh.Yeo2011_7Networks_N1000.annot
>> >>> >> > Should we generate/import the lh.Yeo2011_7Networks_N1000.annot
>> >>> >> > into
>> >>> >> > our
>> >>> >> > subjects/label first?
>> >>> >> > What can we do ?
>> >>> >> > Thank you very much!
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Best wishes,
>> >>> >> > Annie
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > 2015-05-05 8:36 GMT-04:00 Thomas Yeo <ytho...@csail.mit.edu>:
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >> Hi Annie,
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Please cc the freesurfer list when you reply because there might
>> >>> >> >> be
>> >>> >> >> other people more qualified to answer your question.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Based on what you are saying, I think you can first use
>> >>> >> >> mri_surf2surf
>> >>> >> >> (with the "sval-annot" flag) to transform the 2011 functional
>> >>> >> >> networks
>> >>> >> >> .annot file from fsaverage space to the subject's native surface
>> >>> >> >> space. Type "mri_surf2surf --help" to see examples.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> You can then use mris_anatomical_stats to compute thickness
>> >>> >> >> statistics.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Cheers,
>> >>> >> >> Thomas
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 3:21 PM, 陳昱潔 <poohann1...@gmail.com>
>> >>> >> >> wrote:
>> >>> >> >> > Dear Pro. Yeo:
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >  Very appreciate for your reply !
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> > We are trying to use your definition of the functional network
>> >>> >> >> > regions
>> >>> >> >> > to
>> >>> >> >> > re-parcellate our images
>> >>> >> >> > and get the regions of volume or cortical thickness for our
>> >>> >> >> > study
>> >>> >> >> > interest
>> >>> >> >> > of structural network.
>> >>> >> >> > However, we did not want to re-run the first recon-all again
>> >>> >> >> > due
>> >>> >> >> > to
>> >>> >> >> > it's
>> >>> >> >> > spending to much time.
>> >>> >> >> > And we are still can't find the way to solve this problem.
>> >>> >> >> > Thank you very much for helping us!
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> > Best wishes,
>> >>> >> >> > Annie Chen
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> > 2015-05-02 8:25 GMT+08:00 Thomas Yeo <ytho...@csail.mit.edu>:
>> >>> >> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> >> Hi Yu-Chieh,
>> >>> >> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> >> I am cc-ing the freesurfer list who may help you with your
>> >>> >> >> >> issues.
>> >>> >> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> >> Can you explain what exactly you are trying do? The
>> >>> >> >> >> parcellation
>> >>> >> >> >> is
>> >>> >> >> >> released in different resolutions including fsaverage5. Why
>> >>> >> >> >> can't
>> >>> >> >> >> you
>> >>> >> >> >> just use the fsaverage5 parcellation?
>> >>> >> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> >> Cheers,
>> >>> >> >> >> Thomas
>> >>> >> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> >> On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 6:14 PM, 陳昱潔 <poohann1...@gmail.com>
>> >>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >>> >> >> >> > Dear professor Yeo :
>> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >> >    My name is Yu-chieh Chen , I am a graduated student from
>> >>> >> >> >> > National
>> >>> >> >> >> > Taiwan
>> >>> >> >> >> > University of medical school, and my supervisor is
>> >>> >> >> >> > professor
>> >>> >> >> >> > Susan
>> >>> >> >> >> > Shur-Fen
>> >>> >> >> >> > Gau from department of psychiatry, National Taiwan
>> >>> >> >> >> > University
>> >>> >> >> >> > Hospital &
>> >>> >> >> >> > College of Medicine. We are very interesting about your
>> >>> >> >> >> > paper
>> >>> >> >> >> > published
>> >>> >> >> >> > in
>> >>> >> >> >> > 2011 which using resting MRI to separate brain regions to
>> >>> >> >> >> > functional
>> >>> >> >> >> > networks. We'd like to use your percellation to re-separate
>> >>> >> >> >> > the
>> >>> >> >> >> > brain
>> >>> >> >> >> > regions based on your released data in Freesurfer(
>> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >> > http://ftp.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/CorticalParcellation_Yeo2011).
>> >>> >> >> >> > And
>> >>> >> >> >> > use
>> >>> >> >> >> > these volume of brain regions for our study, however, there
>> >>> >> >> >> > comes
>> >>> >> >> >> > the
>> >>> >> >> >> > problem that we assumed that we can change the fsaverage
>> >>> >> >> >> > into
>> >>> >> >> >> > fsaverage5,
>> >>> >> >> >> > thus we may get the new volume of the parcellation_Yeo. But
>> >>> >> >> >> > it
>> >>> >> >> >> > is
>> >>> >> >> >> > not
>> >>> >> >> >> > work.
>> >>> >> >> >> > So I send this email for help. Last , I am very appreciate
>> >>> >> >> >> > your
>> >>> >> >> >> > kindness
>> >>> >> >> >> > and
>> >>> >> >> >> > very sorry for my inappropriate and rough.
>> >>> >> >> >> > Thank you very much for read this email and sorry for
>> >>> >> >> >> > occupied
>> >>> >> >> >> > your
>> >>> >> >> >> > time.
>> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >> > Best wishes,
>> >>> >> >> >> > Yu-chieh Chen
>> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>
>

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