Phew!


> On Mar 4, 2015, at 5:05 PM, Hirsch, Gabriella 
> <gabriella_hir...@meei.harvard.edu> wrote:
> 
> It works. I will play with this a bit. Thank you!
> 
> 
> Gabriella 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
> [mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] On Behalf Of Bruce Fischl
> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 4:42 PM
> To: Freesurfer support list
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] tksurfer overlay threshold
> 
> you need it to be:
> 
> % sclv_set_current_threshold_from_percentile .7 .8 .9
> 
> or something like taht
> 
>> On Wed, 4 Mar 2015, Hirsch, Gabriella wrote:
>> 
>> OK, I tried that, and it does load however I get this message in the 
>> terminal:
>> 
>> tksurfer: run tcl script: threshold.tcl Wrong # args: 
>> sclv_set_current_threshold_from_percentile thresh mid slope%
>> 
>> Also, the threshold continues to be the same as the default....
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Gabriella
>> ________________________________________
>> From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
>> [freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] on behalf of Bruce Fischl 
>> [fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 4:07 PM
>> To: Freesurfer support list
>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] tksurfer overlay threshold
>> 
>> try:
>> 
>> sclv_set_current_threshold_from_percentile
>> 
>> 
>> cheers
>> Bruce
>> On Wed, 4 Mar 2015, Hirsch,
>> Gabriella wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Bruce,
>>> 
>>> I have been in touch with Zeke, who was kind enough to help me update my 
>>> version of Tksurfer. Unfortunately, this has not solved my problem (see 
>>> below).
>>> 
>>> I am attaching here my command prompts in case I have missed 
>>> anything;
>>> 
>>> tksurfer subject rh inflated -overlay 
>>> /media/seagate_external/freesurfer_subjects/subject/surf/rh.thickness 
>>> -tcl threshold.tcl
>>> 
>>> in the threshold.tcl I added the command:
>>> 
>>> set_current_threshold_from_percentile
>>> 
>>> When I run it, tksurfer loads my surface and overlay, but I receive the 
>>> following message in the terminal:
>>> 
>>> tksurfer: run tcl script: threshold.tcl invalid command name 
>>> "set_current_threshold_from_percentile"%
>>> 
>>> Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
>>> Gabriella
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: Z K [zkauf...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 2:32 PM
>>> To: Hirsch, Gabriella
>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] tksurfer overlay threshold
>>> 
>>> Yeah I figured that would be the case.
>>> 
>>> Your best bet in this situation is to respond to Bruce's last email 
>>> on the Freesurfer list and say that Zeke provided you with the most 
>>> recent version of tksurfer but the command still does not work. You 
>>> may want to copy/paste your exact command and terminal output so that 
>>> he's sure this isnt a typo thing or some other small mistake.
>>> 
>>> Sorry but that is the best I can do. I have no idea how to diagnose 
>>> or solve the issue you are encountering.
>>> 
>>> -Zeke
>>> 
>>>> On 03/04/2015 02:00 PM, Hirsch, Gabriella wrote:
>>>> oops! sorry. Well, good news, tksurfer is installed and now runs. bad 
>>>> news, I'm still getting the error message:
>>>> 
>>>> tksurfer: run tcl script: threshold.tcl invalid command name 
>>>> "set_current_threshold_from_percentile"%
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: Z K [zkauf...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 1:49 PM
>>>> To: Hirsch, Gabriella
>>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] tksurfer overlay threshold
>>>> 
>>>> You'll need to make it executable. Type the following commands in 
>>>> the terminal window:
>>>> 
>>>> $> cd $FREESURFER_HOME/tktools
>>>> $> chmod a+x tksurfer*
>>>> 
>>>> and let me know how it goes.
>>>> 
>>>> -Zeke
>>>> 
>>>>> On 03/04/2015 01:38 PM, Hirsch, Gabriella wrote:
>>>>> Still having issues calling it up - I noticed the tksurfer.bin is labeled 
>>>>> as an "unknown" file type as opposed to "program" like tkmedit.bin. Might 
>>>>> this be the reason it isn't being recognized?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gabriella
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Z K [mailto:zkauf...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 12:55 PM
>>>>> To: Hirsch, Gabriella
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] tksurfer overlay threshold
>>>>> 
>>>>> Perhaps there was a miscommunication. I gave you a "tksurfer.bin" file 
>>>>> which was supposed to replace the "tksurfer.bin" you already had. The one 
>>>>> you already had should be renamed to "tksurfer.bin.orig" for backup 
>>>>> purposes.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This time lets just do a complete reinstall of tksurfer. Please download 
>>>>> the following 3 files:
>>>>> 
>>>>> ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu//pub/dist/freesurfer/dev_binaries/
>>>>> centos6_x86_64/tksurfer 
>>>>> ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu//pub/dist/freesurfer/dev_binaries/
>>>>> centos6_x86_64/tksurfer.bin 
>>>>> ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu//pub/dist/freesurfer/dev_binaries/
>>>>> centos6_x86_64/tksurfer.tcl
>>>>> 
>>>>> And place them into your $FREESURFER_HOME/tktools directory. Be sure the 
>>>>> executable bit is set but that should already be the case:
>>>>> 
>>>>> $> cd $FREESURFER_HOME/tktools
>>>>> $> chmod a+x tksurfer*
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now try again. Unfortunaly the more I look at this the more I doubt it is 
>>>>> going to resolve the *set_current_threshold* issue, but its still worth a 
>>>>> shot.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Zeke
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 03/04/2015 12:39 PM, Hirsch, Gabriella wrote:
>>>>>> We've run into a slight problem. I downloaded and replaced the old 
>>>>>> tksurfer with the new one, but now it's not recognizing it. It just says 
>>>>>> "command not found" when I call tksurfer. Is it perhaps a permissions 
>>>>>> issue?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gabriella
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Z K [mailto:zkauf...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 12:10 PM
>>>>>> To: Hirsch, Gabriella
>>>>>> Cc: Bruce Fischl
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] tksurfer overlay threshold
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Gabriela,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Im providing you with the most recent version of tksurfer. I have only 
>>>>>> slim hopes this will solve the issue for you, but its worth a shot.
>>>>>> Please download the following file:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu//pub/dist/freesurfer/dev_binaries
>>>>>> /cen
>>>>>> tos6_x86_64/tksurfer.bin
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And place it into your $FREESURFER_HOME/tktools directory. Backup the 
>>>>>> version you already have there by renaming to tksurfer.bin.orig. Please 
>>>>>> let us know if this solves your issue or not.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Zeke
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 03/04/2015 11:27 AM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
>>>>>>> Zeke: can you get Gabriela a current version of tksurfer and the 
>>>>>>> associated tcl scripts?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Mar 2015, Hirsch, Gabriella wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm using freesurfer version:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> freesurfer-Linux-centos6_x86_64-stable-pub-v5.3.0
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm not sure how to check the version of tksurfer specifically?
>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>>> From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>>>> [freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] on behalf of Bruce 
>>>>>>>> Fischl [fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 11:07 AM
>>>>>>>> To: Freesurfer support list
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] tksurfer overlay threshold
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> you would need to include parameters, but that doesn't explain 
>>>>>>>> your error.
>>>>>>>> What version of tksurfer are you using? It is probably too old
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Mar 2015, Hirsch, Gabriella wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Bruce,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I tried using the command set_threshold_from_percentile as a 
>>>>>>>>> tcl script but I got the following error:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> tksurfer: run tcl script: threshold.tcl invalid command name 
>>>>>>>>> "set_threshold_from_percentile"%
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Do I have to add values to the tcl command as well?
>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>>>>> [freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] on behalf of Bruce 
>>>>>>>>> Fischl [fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 10:26 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: Freesurfer support list
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] tksurfer overlay threshold
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Gabriela
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> they set the threshold so that 92% of the values are not 
>>>>>>>>> displayed, and the color scale saturates at the 99 percentile
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Mar 2015, Hirsch,
>>>>>>>>> Gabriella wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Bruce!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I tried using the command:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> sclv_set_current_threshold_from_percentile
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The tried using the values .92, .925, .99 as noted on the wiki 
>>>>>>>>>> but I'm still not quite sure what these percentages do in 
>>>>>>>>>> terms of setting the threshold?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>> Gabriella
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>>>>>> Bruce Fischl
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 7:05 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: Freesurfer support list
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] tksurfer overlay threshold
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> you can use the command:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> set_current_threshold_from_percentile(min, mid,max)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> which will compute the thresholds based on the histogram of 
>>>>>>>>>> values
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 3 Mar 2015, Douglas N Greve wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what you mean. optimal in what sense?
>>>>>>>>>>> doug
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 03/03/2015 03:21 PM, Hirsch, Gabriella wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Fs experts,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a quick question about settings thresholds of surface 
>>>>>>>>>>>> overlays in Tksurfer. I am currently generating images of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the thickness, volume and surface area of individual 
>>>>>>>>>>>> subjects, and would like to know if there are optimal 
>>>>>>>>>>>> minimum and maximum threshold values to be set for different 
>>>>>>>>>>>> surfaces. For example, when overlaying thickness (from 
>>>>>>>>>>>> /surf/?h.thickness), I have set the min threshold to 1 or 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.3 (see attached); however I'm not sure this same threshold holds 
>>>>>>>>>>>> up in the other surfaces (e.g. surface area).
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> In summary, is there an optimal way to determine what this min.
>>>>>>>>>>>> and max. threshold should be in function of the distribution 
>>>>>>>>>>>> displayed in the threshold window (see attached, on the left)?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gabriella
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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