Hi Bhavani

those files don't list the error. Please see:

http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting?highlight=%28reporting%29%7C%28error%29

for the information we need in order to be able to help you.

cheers
Bruce

On Thu, 12 Feb 2015, Selvaraj, Bhavani 
wrote:

> Hi 
> I tried running recon all command for two case study and it ended with error.
> I am attaching the document.
> Please could you help me solve this issue?
> Thanks,
> Bhavani
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>   7. Re: Different results for GLM analysis of parcellated regions
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 20:22:07 +0000
> From: Aaron Goldman <aaron.gold...@libd.org>
> Subject: [Freesurfer] updating from 5.0 to 5.3
> To: "freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu" <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
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> Hello,
>
> I have a large set of images previously run in FreeSurfer 5.0. I'm also 
> preparing to run a new batch of images and debating whether to use 5.3 or 
> stick with 5.0. If I updated all the old datasets to 5.3, would I need to 
> visually QC them a second time, or are the versions similar enough that I can 
> rely on my pre-existing QC? Also, am I correct in assuming I shouldn't mix 
> versions 5.0 and 5.3?
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> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 16:12:52 -0500 (EST)
> From: Bruce Fischl <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Interhemispheric registration of .mgh files
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> Cc: "sophie.adler...@ucl.ac.uk" <sophie.adler...@ucl.ac.uk>
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> Hi Konrad
>
> you should be able to do this with mri_surf2surf, although the syntax
> might be tricky.
>
> cheers
> Bruce
> On Mon, 9 Feb 2015, Konrad Wagstyl wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We're having some trouble using interhemispheric registration. It works fine 
>> for files that are automatically registered eg thickness, volume etc. but 
>> not for mgh files, like ?h.w-g.pct.mgh.
>> Is there a way of adding files to xhemi/surf/ so that other surfaces files 
>> can be compared between hemispheres?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Konrad
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 15:28:48 -0600
> From: Sampada Sinha <drsampadasi...@gmail.com>
> Subject: [Freesurfer] Help: error on running dt_recon
> To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
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> Dear freesurfer experts,
>
> Sorry for posting such a long message but I am trying to run dt_recon command 
> on DTI images acquired in dicom format using 3T_Toshiba (Toshiba_MEC_MR3). 
> Image parameters are: Scanning sequence =Spin Echo; TR=9 ; TE=082.0 ; Flip 
> angle = 90; Slice thickness= 3.0000; acquisition matrix is 160. Howsoever, I 
> used many tools to get the bval and bvect gradient from the conversion of dcm 
> files to nifti but couldn't get one (dcm2nii, mricron). Even with freesurfer, 
> I am getting following error: (My dcm file is in directory: 
> /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/I*.dcm)
> I used following command to get the dt_recon work:
>
> Sampada$ export FREESURFER_HOME=/Applications/freesurfer
> Sampada$ source $FREESURFER_HOME/SetUpFreeSurfer.sh
> -------- freesurfer-Darwin-snowleopard-i686-stable-pub-v5.3.0 --------
> Setting up environment for FreeSurfer/FS-FAST (and FSL)
> FREESURFER_HOME   /Applications/freesurfer
> FSFAST_HOME       /Applications/freesurfer/fsfast
> FSF_OUTPUT_FORMAT nii.gz
> SUBJECTS_DIR      /Applications/freesurfer/subjects
> MNI_DIR           /Applications/freesurfer/mni
> FSL_DIR           /Applications/fsl
> Sampada$ tcsh
> Sampada% cd /Users/sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/
> ~/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw] Sampada% setenv SUBJECTS_DIR 
> /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw
> ~/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw] Sampada% set subj =Diff001
> ~/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw] Sampada% dt_recon --i 
> /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/I*.dcm --s $subj --o 
> /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw
>
> Error Message: ERROR: Flag /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/I0005130.dcm 
> unrecognized.
> --i /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/I0005129.dcm 
> /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/I0005130.dcm 
> /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/I0005131.dcm 
> /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/I0005132.dcm 
> /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/I0005133.dcm 
> /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/I0005134.dcm
> and so on? (dt_recon exited with ERRORS at Wed Feb 11 01:47:01 CST 2015)
>
> Then I used nii converted file instead of the dcm file and it shows the 
> following error
>
> Sampada% dt_recon --i /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/s700a1001.nii --s 
> $subj --o /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw
> INFO: SUBJECTS_DIR is /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw
> dt_recon logfile
> Wed Feb 11 15:02:47 CST 2015
> VERSION $Id: dt_recon,v 1.15 2011/01/25 21:53:04 greve Exp $
> setenv SUBJECTS_DIR /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw
> cd /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw
> /Applications/freesurfer/bin/dt_recon --i 
> /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/s700a1001.nii --s Diff001 --o 
> /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw
> rmbp.home
> Sampada
> /Applications/fsl/bin/eddy_correct
> ECRefTP 0
> #@#-------------------------------
> Converting input
> Wed Feb 11 15:02:47 CST 2015
> cd /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw
> mri_convert /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/s700a1001.nii 
> /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/dwi.nii
> mri_convert /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/s700a1001.nii 
> /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/dwi.nii
> $Id: mri_convert.c,v 1.179.2.7 2012/09/05 21:55:16 mreuter Exp $
> reading from /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/s700a1001.nii...
> TR=9000.00, TE=0.00, TI=0.00, flip angle=0.00
> i_ras = (-0.994743, 0.0323186, 0.097165)
> j_ras = (0.0525116, 0.97562, 0.21309)
> k_ras = (0.0879093, -0.217072, 0.972189)
> writing to /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/dwi.nii...
>
>
> cd /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw
> mri_probedicom --i /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/s700a1001.nii
> [rmbp:~/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw] Sampada%
>
> I would be very grateful if I any response and know where I am going wrong. I 
> am also attaching the dt_recon.log file with this query.
>
> Much thanks for your time!
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Sampada
> Post-Doctoral Associate
> University of Minnesota (East Bank)
> Molecular and neuroimaging laboratory
> Department of Psychiatry
> Minneapolis-55415
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 17:46:24 -0500
> From: Douglas Greve <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Help: error on running dt_recon
> To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
> Message-ID: <54dbdbc0.6030...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
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>
> Just give it one of the dicoms (ie, don't use the "*" wild card, just
> give it the actual file name of one of the files in the series, it will
> find the rest)
> doug
>
> On 2/11/15 4:28 PM, Sampada Sinha wrote:
>> Dear freesurfer experts,
>>
>> Sorry for posting such a long message but I am trying to run dt_recon
>> command on DTI images acquired in dicom format using 3T_Toshiba
>> (Toshiba_MEC_MR3). Image parameters are: Scanning sequence =Spin Echo;
>> TR=9 ; TE=082.0 ; Flip angle = 90; Slice thickness= 3.0000;
>> acquisition matrix is 160. Howsoever, I used many tools to get the
>> bval and bvect gr
>>
>>
>> adient from the conversion of dcm files to nifti but couldn't get one
>> (dcm2nii, mricron). Even with freesurfer, I am getting following
>> error: (My dcm file is in directory:
>> /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/I*.dcm)
>> I used following command to get the dt_recon work:
>>
>> Sampada$ export FREESURFER_HOME=/Applications/freesurfer
>>  Sampada$ source $FREESURFER_HOME/SetUpFreeSurfer.sh
>> -------- freesurfer-Darwin-snowleopard-i686-stable-pub-v5.3.0 --------
>> Setting up environment for FreeSurfer/FS-FAST (and FSL)
>> FREESURFER_HOME /Applications/freesurfer
>> FSFAST_HOME /Applications/freesurfer/fsfast
>> FSF_OUTPUT_FORMAT nii.gz
>> SUBJECTS_DIR  /Applications/freesurfer/subjects
>> MNI_DIR /Applications/freesurfer/mni
>> FSL_DIR /Applications/fsl
>> Sampada$ tcsh
>> Sampada% cd /Users/sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/
>> ~/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw] Sampada% setenv SUBJECTS_DIR
>> /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw
>> ~/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw] Sampada% set subj =Diff001
>> ~/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw] Sampada% dt_recon --i
>> /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/I*.dcm --s $subj --o
>> /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw
>>
>> Error Message: ERROR: Flag
>> /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/I0005130.dcm unrecognized.
>> --i /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/I0005129.dcm
>> /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/I0005130.dcm
>> /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/I0005131.dcm
>> /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/I0005132.dcm
>> /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/I0005133.dcm
>> /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/I0005134.dcm
>> and so on? (dt_recon exited with ERRORS at Wed Feb 11 01:47:01 CST 2015)
>>
>> Then I used nii converted file instead of the dcm file and it shows
>> the following error
>>
>> Sampada% dt_recon --i /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/s700a1001.nii
>> --s $subj --o /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw
>> INFO: SUBJECTS_DIR is /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw
>> dt_recon logfile
>> Wed Feb 11 15:02:47 CST 2015
>> VERSION $Id: dt_recon,v 1.15 2011/01/25 21:53:04 greve Exp $
>> setenv SUBJECTS_DIR /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw
>> cd /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw
>> /Applications/freesurfer/bin/dt_recon --i
>> /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/s700a1001.nii --s Diff001 --o
>> /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw
>> rmbp.home
>> Sampada
>> /Applications/fsl/bin/eddy_correct
>> ECRefTP 0
>> #@#-------------------------------
>> Converting input
>> Wed Feb 11 15:02:47 CST 2015
>> cd /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw
>> mri_convert /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/s700a1001.nii
>> /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/dwi.nii
>> mri_convert /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/s700a1001.nii
>> /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/dwi.nii
>> $Id: mri_convert.c,v 1.179.2.7 2012/09/05 21:55:16 mreuter Exp $
>> reading from /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/s700a1001.nii...
>> TR=9000.00, TE=0.00, TI=0.00, flip angle=0.00
>> i_ras = (-0.994743, 0.0323186, 0.097165)
>> j_ras = (0.0525116, 0.97562, 0.21309)
>> k_ras = (0.0879093, -0.217072, 0.972189)
>> writing to /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/dwi.nii...
>>
>>
>> cd /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw
>> mri_probedicom --i /Users/Sampada/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw/s700a1001.nii
>> [rmbp:~/Desktop/DTIDCM/Raw] Sampada%
>>
>> I would be very grateful if I any response and know where I am going
>> wrong. I am also attaching the dt_recon.log file with this query.
>>
>> Much thanks for your time!
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Sampada
>> Post-Doctoral Associate
>> University of Minnesota (East Bank)
>> Molecular and neuroimaging laboratory
>> Department of Psychiatry
>> Minneapolis-55415
>>
>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 18:01:53 -0500
> From: Douglas Greve <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Interhemispheric registration of .mgh files
> To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
> Message-ID: <54dbdf61.7000...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
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>
> Probably easier to use mris_apply_reg, something like
>
> mris_apply_reg --src lh.w-g.pct.mgh --trg xhemi.lh.w-g.pct.mgh \
>   --streg $SUBJECTS_DIR/$subject/surf/lh.fsaverage_sym.sphere.reg \
>              $SUBJECTS_DIR/fsaverage_sym/surf/lh.sphere.reg
>
> mris_apply_reg --src rh.w-g.pct.mgh --trg xhemi.rh.w-g.pct.mgh \
>   --streg $SUBJECTS_DIR/$subject/xhemi/surf/lh.fsaverage_sym.sphere.reg \
>              $SUBJECTS_DIR/fsaverage_sym/surf/lh.sphere.reg
>
> In the 2nd command line (for rh), lh.fsaverage_sym.sphere.reg is used.
> This is intentional; the left hemis in the xhemi folder are actually
> right hemis.
>
> doug
>
>
> On 2/11/15 4:12 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
>> Hi Konrad
>>
>> you should be able to do this with mri_surf2surf, although the syntax
>> might be tricky.
>>
>> cheers
>> Bruce
>> On Mon, 9 Feb 2015, Konrad Wagstyl wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> We're having some trouble using interhemispheric registration. It works 
>>> fine for files that are automatically registered eg thickness, volume etc. 
>>> but not for mgh files, like ?h.w-g.pct.mgh.
>>> Is there a way of adding files to xhemi/surf/ so that other surfaces files 
>>> can be compared between hemispheres?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Konrad
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Freesurfer mailing list
>>> Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu_mailman_listinfo_freesurfer&d=AwICAg&c=FGzDrZ8hK6OoO1oc9Smc5viw6E0cF__gglPkcFwC2N8&r=ffK64aaMIE1GqLjcz0w1FGZ_6Mr7vi1gDBqjGMI4TaEnGxgSIdq3bd_mOh9MSBnd&m=UhsLycigCHMsEqakbi9FEaSyxA12muzKL7XCcvWFgCQ&s=pIyr-W-cl8jY4gW5Yj7jpWfKt5YF4ZQJfDKHCV5ilSQ&e=
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 18:05:23 -0500
> From: Douglas Greve <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Interhemispheric registration of .mgh files
> To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
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> btw, to check, you can run this on the thicknesses and compare to what
> you get with mris_preproc
>
> On 2/11/15 6:01 PM, Douglas Greve wrote:
>> Probably easier to use mris_apply_reg, something like
>>
>> mris_apply_reg --src lh.w-g.pct.mgh --trg xhemi.lh.w-g.pct.mgh \
>>     --streg $SUBJECTS_DIR/$subject/surf/lh.fsaverage_sym.sphere.reg \
>>                $SUBJECTS_DIR/fsaverage_sym/surf/lh.sphere.reg
>>
>> mris_apply_reg --src rh.w-g.pct.mgh --trg xhemi.rh.w-g.pct.mgh \
>>     --streg $SUBJECTS_DIR/$subject/xhemi/surf/lh.fsaverage_sym.sphere.reg \
>>                $SUBJECTS_DIR/fsaverage_sym/surf/lh.sphere.reg
>>
>> In the 2nd command line (for rh), lh.fsaverage_sym.sphere.reg is used.
>> This is intentional; the left hemis in the xhemi folder are actually
>> right hemis.
>>
>> doug
>>
>>
>> On 2/11/15 4:12 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
>>> Hi Konrad
>>>
>>> you should be able to do this with mri_surf2surf, although the syntax
>>> might be tricky.
>>>
>>> cheers
>>> Bruce
>>> On Mon, 9 Feb 2015, Konrad Wagstyl wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> We're having some trouble using interhemispheric registration. It works 
>>>> fine for files that are automatically registered eg thickness, volume etc. 
>>>> but not for mgh files, like ?h.w-g.pct.mgh.
>>>> Is there a way of adding files to xhemi/surf/ so that other surfaces files 
>>>> can be compared between hemispheres?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Konrad
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 13:38:35 +1100
> From: Bronwyn Overs <b.ov...@neura.edu.au>
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Different results for GLM analysis of
>        parcellated regions and vertex-wise analyses
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> Hi Doug,
>
> I am still trying to resolve the different results for GLMs completed in
> Freesurfer and SPSS. Interestingly, I get the same p-values for each
> method when I remove my continuous covariate (age) from the model
> (leaving gender, group, and genderXgroup effects). This suggests that
> the two methods are treating covariates in a different manner.
>
> Unfortunately, SPSS does allow you to print out the GLM design matrix or
> use the design matrix from mri_glmfit as an input. However, I am able to
> print out the contrast matrices for the analysis, which look like this:
>
> Contrast        Intercept       Age     [Gender=Female]         [Gender=Male]
> [diagnosis=Case]        [diagnosis=Control]     [diagnosis=Case] *
> [Gender=Female]         [diagnosis=Case] * [Gender=Male]        
> [diagnosis=Control] *
> [Gender=Female]         [diagnosis=Control] * [Gender=Male]
> Intercept       1       0       0.5     0.5     0.5     0.5     0.25    0.25  
>   0.25    0.25
> Age     0       1       0       0       0       0       0       0       0     
>   0
> gender  0       0       1       -1      0       0       0.5     -0.5    0.5   
>   -0.5
> diagnosis       0       0       0       0       1       -1      0.5     0.5   
>   -0.5    -0.5
> gender*diagnosis        0       0       0       0       0       0       1     
>   -1      -1      1
>
>
> While for mri_glmfit, the contrast vectors look like this:
>
>
>        Intercept       Intercept       Intercept       Intercept       Age 
> Slope       Age Slope       Age
> Slope   Age Slope
> contrast        Male-Case       Female-Case     Male-Control    Female-Control
> Male-Case       Female-Case     Male-Control    Female-Control
> age     0       0       0       0       0.5     0.5     0.5     0.5
> gender  0.5     -0.5    0.5     -0.5    0       0       0       0
> group   0.5     0.5     -0.5    -0.5    0       0       0       0
> gender*group    0.5     -0.5    -0.5    0.5     0       0       0       0
>
>
> From this information, do you know if there is a way to work out why
> the two methods are producing different results when a continuous
> covariate is included in the model? I am fairly stumped and would great
> appreciate any further insight you can provide.
>
> Compared to
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Bronwyn Overs
> Research Assistant
>
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>> Thanks.
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>> On 7/02/2015 3:16 am, Douglas N Greve wrote:
>>> It should be 10^-abs(sig)
>>>
>>>
>>> On 02/06/2015 12:53 AM, Bronwyn Overs wrote:
>>>> Hi Doug,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for all of your help. I am investigating the differences
>>>> between the design matrices now.
>>>>
>>>> I have one more query about the sig.table.dat file put out by the GLM
>>>> using the parcellated ROIs. When I transform each of the values in
>>>> this file to p values using 10^"value", some of the resulting p-value
>>>> are >1. Do you know why this would be happening? Here is an example of
>>>> one of my sig.table.dat files, where 10^.799 = 6.295:
>>>>
>>>> lh.aparc.thickness                me_gender_ageRem me_group_ageRem
>>>> lh_bankssts_thickness               0.107  -2.752
>>>> lh_caudalanteriorcingulate_thickness  -2.616  -0.190
>>>> lh_caudalmiddlefrontal_thickness   -0.701  -4.258
>>>> lh_cuneus_thickness                 0.799  -1.178
>>>> lh_entorhinal_thickness             1.669  -4.129
>>>> lh_fusiform_thickness              -0.088  -6.808
>>>> lh_inferiorparietal_thickness      -0.665  -1.477
>>>> lh_inferiortemporal_thickness       0.149  -7.985
>>>> lh_isthmuscingulate_thickness      -0.476  -2.393
>>>> lh_lateraloccipital_thickness       0.212  -1.189
>>>> lh_lateralorbitofrontal_thickness   0.288  -7.657
>>>> lh_lingual_thickness                1.148  -1.594
>>>> lh_medialorbitofrontal_thickness    1.405  -4.461
>>>> lh_middletemporal_thickness         0.727  -7.215
>>>> lh_parahippocampal_thickness       -1.059  -2.854
>>>> lh_paracentral_thickness           -0.514  -0.282
>>>> lh_parsopercularis_thickness        0.444  -3.541
>>>> lh_parsorbitalis_thickness         -0.110  -7.075
>>>> lh_parstriangularis_thickness       0.244  -4.769
>>>> lh_pericalcarine_thickness          0.376  -0.218
>>>> lh_postcentral_thickness           -0.485  -0.832
>>>> lh_posteriorcingulate_thickness    -0.135  -1.241
>>>> lh_precentral_thickness             0.196  -2.102
>>>> lh_precuneus_thickness              0.018  -1.361
>>>> lh_rostralanteriorcingulate_thickness  -1.208  -2.073
>>>> lh_rostralmiddlefrontal_thickness   0.437  -4.470
>>>> lh_superiorfrontal_thickness       -0.141  -2.743
>>>> lh_superiorparietal_thickness      -0.288  -0.365
>>>> lh_superiortemporal_thickness       0.227  -4.646
>>>> lh_supramarginal_thickness         -1.185  -1.354
>>>> lh_frontalpole_thickness           -0.325  -0.521
>>>> lh_temporalpole_thickness          -0.067  -4.074
>>>> lh_transversetemporal_thickness    -0.009  -1.618
>>>> lh_insula_thickness                 0.553  -6.063
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>
>>>> Bronwyn Overs
>>>> Research Assistant
>>>>
>>>> Neuroscience Research Australia
>>>>
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>>>> On 5/02/2015 10:46 am, Douglas N Greve wrote:
>>>>> How sure are you that you are using the exact same model? Can you output
>>>>> the design matrix from SPSS? Can you input the FS design matrix into
>>>>> SPSS? Are you sure you are using the exact same input data?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/04/2015 06:32 PM, Bronwyn Overs wrote:
>>>>>> Ahh right. I have just understood which part of the output I needed to
>>>>>> look at. However, for the ROI GLM there are only 1-2 regions that were
>>>>>> significantly different between groups, while the SPSS ANCOVA showed
>>>>>> significant group differences for the majority of parcellated regions.
>>>>>> I have confirmed that I am using the exact same model for each, so it
>>>>>> is only the analysis method that differs. Do you know why these two
>>>>>> methods would produce such disparate results?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bronwyn Overs
>>>>>> Research Assistant
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Neuroscience Research Australia
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Neuroscience Research Australia
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>>>>>> On 5/02/2015 3:16 am, Douglas N Greve wrote:
>>>>>>> I'm not sure that I understand what I'm looking at. If it is an ROI
>>>>>>> analysis, then there is no surface, it should be about 40 numbers, one
>>>>>>> for each ROI.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 02/03/2015 06:26 PM, Bronwyn Overs wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Doug,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for your correction.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have now completed the FDR for my case-control comparisons, and it
>>>>>>>> appears that none of the regions survived. This is again quite
>>>>>>>> confusing given the large number of parcellated regions that survived
>>>>>>>> FDR in the SPSS ANCOVA. Can you confirm that this screenshot of the
>>>>>>>> sig.mgh file from ROI analysis looks as you would expect (it looks
>>>>>>>> very strange to me):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bronwyn Overs
>>>>>>>> Research Assistant
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Neuroscience Research Australia
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/02/2015 9:35 am, Douglas Greve wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Yes, it should be .^
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/15 5:33 PM, Bronwyn Overs wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Doug,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am having a problem with the line in Matlab 2014b:
>>>>>>>>>> p = 10^-abs(sigmat);
>>>>>>>>>> I keep getting the following error:
>>>>>>>>>> Error using  ^
>>>>>>>>>> Inputs must be a scalar and a square matrix.
>>>>>>>>>> To compute elementwise POWER, use POWER (.^)
>>>>>>>>>> instead.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Do you know why this would be?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bronwyn Overs
>>>>>>>>>> Research Assistant
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Neuroscience Research Australia
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Neuroscience Research Australia
>>>>>>>>>> Margarete Ainsworth Building
>>>>>>>>>> Barker Street Randwick Sydney NSW 2031 Australia
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/02/2015 2:22 am, Douglas Greve wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> There is not a way to do it from the command line. You can do it in
>>>>>>>>>>> matlab, something like
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> sig = MRIread('sig.mgh');
>>>>>>>>>>> sigmat = fast_vol2mat(sig);
>>>>>>>>>>> p = 10^-abs(sigmat);
>>>>>>>>>>> fdr = .05;
>>>>>>>>>>> pthresh = fast_fdrthresh(p,fdr);
>>>>>>>>>>> ind = find(p < pthresh); % This will be a list of ROI indices that
>>>>>>>>>>> survive FDR
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> doug
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/2/15 10:26 PM, Bronwyn Overs wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Doug,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That makes perfect sense. Just one more thing then, how do you
>>>>>>>>>>>> conduct an FDR via the command line for an ROI mri_glmfit analysis?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bronwyn Overs
>>>>>>>>>>>> Research Assistant
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Neuroscience Research Australia
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Neuroscience Research Australia
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>>>>>>>>>>>> Barker Street Randwick Sydney NSW 2031 Australia
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/02/2015 2:00 pm, Douglas Greve wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is not something you would run the MC sim on because there
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is no clustering, it is just a list of ROIs with their p-values.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The p-values are uncorrected. You can do bonferoni correction
>>>>>>>>>>>>> across all the ROIs (or just the ones you are interested in). You
>>>>>>>>>>>>> could do FDR too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> doug
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/2/15 9:39 PM, Bronwyn Overs wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Doug, that worked well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, is it possible to run a monte-carlo simulation with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this GLM ROI analysis? I attempted to run it using the following
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DesikanROIAnal_case-control.thick.lh.glmdir --cache 1.3 abs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --cwpvalthresh  0.05 --2spaces
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and received the following error:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ERROR: could not determine file for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DesikanROIAnal_case-control.thick.lh.glmdir/mask
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bronwyn Overs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Research Assistant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neuroscience Research Australia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neuroscience Research Australia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Margarete Ainsworth Building
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Barker Street Randwick Sydney NSW 2031 Australia
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/02/2015 11:03 am, Douglas Greve wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even easier. Run aparcstats2table, then run mri_glmfit passing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the output of aparcstats2table with --table (instead of --y).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's something on the wiki about it, also look for the ROI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tutorial.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doug
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/2/15 6:20 PM, Bronwyn Overs wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Doug,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure how to run an ROI analysis using mri_glmfit. Is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there a wiki page detailing this method (I was unable to find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one)? Is the first step to map lh.aparc.label and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rh.aparc.label from fsaverage to each of my individual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subjects using mri_label2label? When I do so and then view the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mapped label for an individual subject in freeview, it appears
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be a continuous label for all of the parcellated regions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> combined. Is this correct?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bronwyn Overs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Research Assistant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neuroscience Research Australia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neuroscience Research Australia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Margarete Ainsworth Building
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Barker Street Randwick Sydney NSW 2031 Australia
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/02/2015 3:31 am, Douglas Greve wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First, I would run the ROI analysis in mri_glmfit to see if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you get the same results as in SPSS. In the handfull of these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cases, no one has been able to correctly replicate the FS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> design matrix in SPSS, so I suspect that is part of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discrepancy. The other thing is that ROI and vertex-wise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> analyses are simply different. As an extreme example, if some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the vertices are pos and some are neg  then they would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cancel out when you average them in an ROI but individually
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could be significant at the vertex level. If you analyze the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> average over the cluster then that should come out as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> significant.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doug
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/1/15 11:36 PM, Bronwyn Overs wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear FreeSurfer Mailing List,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a sample of schizophrenia and control subjects for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whom I have run a case-control analysis of cortical
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thickness using two separate methods (GLM vertex-wise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> analysis in freesurfer, repeated measures ANCOVA analysis of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> parcellated data in SPSS). However, for each methods of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> analysis I am getting extremely different results. For the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GLM in Freesurfer I have only 1 small cluster in the frontal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lobe that differs between cases and controls (controlling
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for all other IVs, FWMH = 10mm, cluster-forming threshold=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .05, cluster-wise pval=.05), while for the ANCOVA method all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but 8 of the parcellated regions differ significantly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> between groups (p<.05). For both methods I have used the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same model of predictors (independent variables = gender,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> group, scanning site; covariate = age) and exactly the same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sample of participants. I have also replicated the GLM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> analysis using the QDEC GUI to ensure that I had no made any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mistakes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you provide any insight into why I would be seeing such
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different results for each method using the same data set?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My findings using the ANCOVA analysis make much more sense
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to me, given previous findings of reduced cortical thickness
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in schizophrenia subjects. I was surprised not to find the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same pattern of effects using the GLM analysis.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bronwyn Overs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Research Assistant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neuroscience Research Australia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neuroscience Research Australia
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Barker Street Randwick Sydney NSW 2031 Australia
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu_mailman_listinfo_freesurfer&d=AwICAg&c=FGzDrZ8hK6OoO1oc9Smc5viw6E0cF__gglPkcFwC2N8&r=ffK64aaMIE1GqLjcz0w1FGZ_6Mr7vi1gDBqjGMI4TaEnGxgSIdq3bd_mOh9MSBnd&m=UhsLycigCHMsEqakbi9FEaSyxA12muzKL7XCcvWFgCQ&s=pIyr-W-cl8jY4gW5Yj7jpWfKt5YF4ZQJfDKHCV5ilSQ&e=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Freesurfer mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu_mailman_listinfo_freesurfer&d=AwICAg&c=FGzDrZ8hK6OoO1oc9Smc5viw6E0cF__gglPkcFwC2N8&r=ffK64aaMIE1GqLjcz0w1FGZ_6Mr7vi1gDBqjGMI4TaEnGxgSIdq3bd_mOh9MSBnd&m=UhsLycigCHMsEqakbi9FEaSyxA12muzKL7XCcvWFgCQ&s=pIyr-W-cl8jY4gW5Yj7jpWfKt5YF4ZQJfDKHCV5ilSQ&e=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The information in this e-mail is intended only for the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person to whom it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> error and the e-mail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contains patient information, please contact the Partners 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Compliance HelpLine at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.partners.org_complianceline&d=AwICAg&c=FGzDrZ8hK6OoO1oc9Smc5viw6E0cF__gglPkcFwC2N8&r=ffK64aaMIE1GqLjcz0w1FGZ_6Mr7vi1gDBqjGMI4TaEnGxgSIdq3bd_mOh9MSBnd&m=UhsLycigCHMsEqakbi9FEaSyxA12muzKL7XCcvWFgCQ&s=SdG3MAsjgOL6ubQPYstixwLSuixPqsV0Mk6s8Iqpl_4&e=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       . If the e-mail was sent to you in error
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but does not contain patient information, please contact the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sender and properly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dispose of the e-mail.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Freesurfer mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu_mailman_listinfo_freesurfer&d=AwICAg&c=FGzDrZ8hK6OoO1oc9Smc5viw6E0cF__gglPkcFwC2N8&r=ffK64aaMIE1GqLjcz0w1FGZ_6Mr7vi1gDBqjGMI4TaEnGxgSIdq3bd_mOh9MSBnd&m=UhsLycigCHMsEqakbi9FEaSyxA12muzKL7XCcvWFgCQ&s=pIyr-W-cl8jY4gW5Yj7jpWfKt5YF4ZQJfDKHCV5ilSQ&e=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Freesurfer mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu_mailman_listinfo_freesurfer&d=AwICAg&c=FGzDrZ8hK6OoO1oc9Smc5viw6E0cF__gglPkcFwC2N8&r=ffK64aaMIE1GqLjcz0w1FGZ_6Mr7vi1gDBqjGMI4TaEnGxgSIdq3bd_mOh9MSBnd&m=UhsLycigCHMsEqakbi9FEaSyxA12muzKL7XCcvWFgCQ&s=pIyr-W-cl8jY4gW5Yj7jpWfKt5YF4ZQJfDKHCV5ilSQ&e=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to whom it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the e-mail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contains patient information, please contact the Partners 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Compliance HelpLine at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.partners.org_complianceline&d=AwICAg&c=FGzDrZ8hK6OoO1oc9Smc5viw6E0cF__gglPkcFwC2N8&r=ffK64aaMIE1GqLjcz0w1FGZ_6Mr7vi1gDBqjGMI4TaEnGxgSIdq3bd_mOh9MSBnd&m=UhsLycigCHMsEqakbi9FEaSyxA12muzKL7XCcvWFgCQ&s=SdG3MAsjgOL6ubQPYstixwLSuixPqsV0Mk6s8Iqpl_4&e=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       . If the e-mail was sent to you in error
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but does not contain patient information, please contact the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sender and properly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dispose of the e-mail.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Freesurfer mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu_mailman_listinfo_freesurfer&d=AwICAg&c=FGzDrZ8hK6OoO1oc9Smc5viw6E0cF__gglPkcFwC2N8&r=ffK64aaMIE1GqLjcz0w1FGZ_6Mr7vi1gDBqjGMI4TaEnGxgSIdq3bd_mOh9MSBnd&m=UhsLycigCHMsEqakbi9FEaSyxA12muzKL7XCcvWFgCQ&s=pIyr-W-cl8jY4gW5Yj7jpWfKt5YF4ZQJfDKHCV5ilSQ&e=
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Freesurfer mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu_mailman_listinfo_freesurfer&d=AwICAg&c=FGzDrZ8hK6OoO1oc9Smc5viw6E0cF__gglPkcFwC2N8&r=ffK64aaMIE1GqLjcz0w1FGZ_6Mr7vi1gDBqjGMI4TaEnGxgSIdq3bd_mOh9MSBnd&m=UhsLycigCHMsEqakbi9FEaSyxA12muzKL7XCcvWFgCQ&s=pIyr-W-cl8jY4gW5Yj7jpWfKt5YF4ZQJfDKHCV5ilSQ&e=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whom it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the e-mail
>>>>>>>>>>>>> contains patient information, please contact the Partners 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Compliance HelpLine at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.partners.org_complianceline&d=AwICAg&c=FGzDrZ8hK6OoO1oc9Smc5viw6E0cF__gglPkcFwC2N8&r=ffK64aaMIE1GqLjcz0w1FGZ_6Mr7vi1gDBqjGMI4TaEnGxgSIdq3bd_mOh9MSBnd&m=UhsLycigCHMsEqakbi9FEaSyxA12muzKL7XCcvWFgCQ&s=SdG3MAsjgOL6ubQPYstixwLSuixPqsV0Mk6s8Iqpl_4&e=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>       . If the e-mail was sent to you in error
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but does not contain patient information, please contact the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sender and properly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dispose of the e-mail.
>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>> Freesurfer mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>> Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu_mailman_listinfo_freesurfer&d=AwICAg&c=FGzDrZ8hK6OoO1oc9Smc5viw6E0cF__gglPkcFwC2N8&r=ffK64aaMIE1GqLjcz0w1FGZ_6Mr7vi1gDBqjGMI4TaEnGxgSIdq3bd_mOh9MSBnd&m=UhsLycigCHMsEqakbi9FEaSyxA12muzKL7XCcvWFgCQ&s=pIyr-W-cl8jY4gW5Yj7jpWfKt5YF4ZQJfDKHCV5ilSQ&e=
>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> Freesurfer mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>> Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu_mailman_listinfo_freesurfer&d=AwICAg&c=FGzDrZ8hK6OoO1oc9Smc5viw6E0cF__gglPkcFwC2N8&r=ffK64aaMIE1GqLjcz0w1FGZ_6Mr7vi1gDBqjGMI4TaEnGxgSIdq3bd_mOh9MSBnd&m=UhsLycigCHMsEqakbi9FEaSyxA12muzKL7XCcvWFgCQ&s=pIyr-W-cl8jY4gW5Yj7jpWfKt5YF4ZQJfDKHCV5ilSQ&e=
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to 
>>>>>>>>>>> whom it is
>>>>>>>>>>> addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and 
>>>>>>>>>>> the e-mail
>>>>>>>>>>> contains patient information, please contact the Partners 
>>>>>>>>>>> Compliance HelpLine at
>>>>>>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.partners.org_complianceline&d=AwICAg&c=FGzDrZ8hK6OoO1oc9Smc5viw6E0cF__gglPkcFwC2N8&r=ffK64aaMIE1GqLjcz0w1FGZ_6Mr7vi1gDBqjGMI4TaEnGxgSIdq3bd_mOh9MSBnd&m=UhsLycigCHMsEqakbi9FEaSyxA12muzKL7XCcvWFgCQ&s=SdG3MAsjgOL6ubQPYstixwLSuixPqsV0Mk6s8Iqpl_4&e=
>>>>>>>>>>>       . If the e-mail was sent to you in error
>>>>>>>>>>> but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender 
>>>>>>>>>>> and properly
>>>>>>>>>>> dispose of the e-mail.
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> Freesurfer mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu_mailman_listinfo_freesurfer&d=AwICAg&c=FGzDrZ8hK6OoO1oc9Smc5viw6E0cF__gglPkcFwC2N8&r=ffK64aaMIE1GqLjcz0w1FGZ_6Mr7vi1gDBqjGMI4TaEnGxgSIdq3bd_mOh9MSBnd&m=UhsLycigCHMsEqakbi9FEaSyxA12muzKL7XCcvWFgCQ&s=pIyr-W-cl8jY4gW5Yj7jpWfKt5YF4ZQJfDKHCV5ilSQ&e=
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> Freesurfer mailing list
>>>>>>>>> Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu_mailman_listinfo_freesurfer&d=AwICAg&c=FGzDrZ8hK6OoO1oc9Smc5viw6E0cF__gglPkcFwC2N8&r=ffK64aaMIE1GqLjcz0w1FGZ_6Mr7vi1gDBqjGMI4TaEnGxgSIdq3bd_mOh9MSBnd&m=UhsLycigCHMsEqakbi9FEaSyxA12muzKL7XCcvWFgCQ&s=pIyr-W-cl8jY4gW5Yj7jpWfKt5YF4ZQJfDKHCV5ilSQ&e=
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to 
>>>>>>>>> whom it is
>>>>>>>>> addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and 
>>>>>>>>> the e-mail
>>>>>>>>> contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance 
>>>>>>>>> HelpLine at
>>>>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.partners.org_complianceline&d=AwICAg&c=FGzDrZ8hK6OoO1oc9Smc5viw6E0cF__gglPkcFwC2N8&r=ffK64aaMIE1GqLjcz0w1FGZ_6Mr7vi1gDBqjGMI4TaEnGxgSIdq3bd_mOh9MSBnd&m=UhsLycigCHMsEqakbi9FEaSyxA12muzKL7XCcvWFgCQ&s=SdG3MAsjgOL6ubQPYstixwLSuixPqsV0Mk6s8Iqpl_4&e=
>>>>>>>>>       . If the e-mail was sent to you in error
>>>>>>>>> but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender 
>>>>>>>>> and properly
>>>>>>>>> dispose of the e-mail.
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Freesurfer mailing list
>>>>>>>> Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu_mailman_listinfo_freesurfer&d=AwICAg&c=FGzDrZ8hK6OoO1oc9Smc5viw6E0cF__gglPkcFwC2N8&r=ffK64aaMIE1GqLjcz0w1FGZ_6Mr7vi1gDBqjGMI4TaEnGxgSIdq3bd_mOh9MSBnd&m=UhsLycigCHMsEqakbi9FEaSyxA12muzKL7XCcvWFgCQ&s=pIyr-W-cl8jY4gW5Yj7jpWfKt5YF4ZQJfDKHCV5ilSQ&e=
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Freesurfer mailing list
>>>>>> Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu_mailman_listinfo_freesurfer&d=AwICAg&c=FGzDrZ8hK6OoO1oc9Smc5viw6E0cF__gglPkcFwC2N8&r=ffK64aaMIE1GqLjcz0w1FGZ_6Mr7vi1gDBqjGMI4TaEnGxgSIdq3bd_mOh9MSBnd&m=UhsLycigCHMsEqakbi9FEaSyxA12muzKL7XCcvWFgCQ&s=pIyr-W-cl8jY4gW5Yj7jpWfKt5YF4ZQJfDKHCV5ilSQ&e=
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Freesurfer mailing list
>>>> Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu_mailman_listinfo_freesurfer&d=AwICAg&c=FGzDrZ8hK6OoO1oc9Smc5viw6E0cF__gglPkcFwC2N8&r=ffK64aaMIE1GqLjcz0w1FGZ_6Mr7vi1gDBqjGMI4TaEnGxgSIdq3bd_mOh9MSBnd&m=UhsLycigCHMsEqakbi9FEaSyxA12muzKL7XCcvWFgCQ&s=pIyr-W-cl8jY4gW5Yj7jpWfKt5YF4ZQJfDKHCV5ilSQ&e=
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> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 04:03:53 +0000
> From: "Harms, Michael" <mha...@wustl.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] updating from 5.0 to 5.3
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> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 08:06:48 +0100
> From: "Thomas Potrusil" <am-dam-...@gmx.at>
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] DTI question
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> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 11:31:09 +0000
> From: "Worker, Amanda" <amanda.wor...@kcl.ac.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] bbregister error [Was: TRACULA mask error]
> To: Freesurfer support list <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
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> Hi Anastasia,
>
> Apologies this looks like an error on my part. I had edited the script to 
> specify --init-spm instead of --init-fsl but forgot to specify that this 
> script was to be used. It all seems to be looking good now which is 
> fantastic- thanks very much for all of your help!!
>
> One last question, when using the command:
>
> freeview -tv 
> $TUTORIAL_DATA/diffusion_tutorial/elmo.2012/dpath/merged_avg33_mni_bbr.mgz \
>         -v $TUTORIAL_DATA/diffusion_tutorial/elmo.2012/dmri/dtifit_FA.nii.gz &
>
> I am able to see all of the tracts clearly, except in some of the subjects 
> the Forceps Major seems to be missing. Changing the threshold doesn't seem to 
> make a difference. Do you have any ideas what the issue could be with this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Amanda
>
> ________________________________________
> From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
> <freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Anastasia Yendiki 
> <ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
> Sent: 11 February 2015 16:21
> To: Freesurfer support list
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] bbregister error [Was: TRACULA mask error]
>
> Hi Amanda - It doesn't look like the new registration was applied to the
> aparc+aseg. Can you tell us the exact sequence of steps that you followed,
> including your bbregister command line and the trac-all command lines that
> you ran after running bbregister?
>
> Thanks,
> a.y
>
> On Wed, 11 Feb 2015, Worker, Amanda wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks for this. --init-spm does appear to work and when checking the 
>> registration using the instructions bbregister gives it all looks good to 
>> me. However, when I check the dtifit_FA and aparc+aseg.bbr.nii it still 
>> doesn't look too good. I've continued on with the next steps for 
>> reconstructing the pathways just to see what happens, but they don't come 
>> out well.
>>
>> I've attached a screenshot of the registration using --init-spm and then 
>> also a screenshot of the dmri/dtfit_FA.nii.gz alone and with 
>> aparc+aseg.bbri.nii overlayed.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Amanda
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
>> <freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Douglas N Greve 
>> <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>> Sent: 06 February 2015 19:15
>> To: Bruce Fischl; Freesurfer support list
>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] bbregister error [Was: TRACULA mask error]
>>
>> or --init-rr if you don't have matlab/spm
>>
>> On 02/06/2015 01:49 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
>>> try --init-spm
>>> On Fri, 6 Feb 2015, Anastasia Yendiki wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Amanda - So it looks like --init-header didn't work, and neither does
>>>> --init-fsl. I'll defer to the father of bbregister, Doug, for clues
>>>> about
>>>> how to proceed.
>>>>
>>>> a.y
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 21 Jan 2015, Worker, Amanda wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Anastasia,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes I have done that. My command line was... " bbregister --s
>>>>> PDPLUS010 --init-header --dti --mov
>>>>> /home/k1204763/images/PDPLUS_TRACULA/TRACULA_OUTPUT/PDPLUS010/dmri/dwi.nii.gz
>>>>> --reg
>>>>> /home/k1204763/images/PDPLUS_TRACULA/TRACULA_OUTPUT/PDPLUS010/dmri/xfms/anatorig2diff.bbr.dat
>>>>> --fslmat
>>>>> /home/k1204763/images/PDPLUS_TRACULA/TRACULA_OUTPUT/PDPLUS010/dmri/xfms/diff2anatorig.bbr.mat
>>>>> "
>>>>>
>>>>> Following the instructions printed I can only see a tiny bit of the
>>>>> dwi.nii.gz, as attached.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've also tried substituting --dti for --t1 in the command line and
>>>>> that doesn't make much difference.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you have any other ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Amanda
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>> From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>> <freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Anastasia
>>>>> Yendiki <ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>> Sent: 15 January 2015 15:36
>>>>> To: Freesurfer support list
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] TRACULA mask error
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you follow the instructions and the end of the output of the
>>>>> bbregister command? What does that look like? See what I wrote below
>>>>> about
>>>>> looking for the bbregister command in trac-all.log, running it
>>>>> separately
>>>>> on one subject after changing that one option and looking at its
>>>>> output.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 14 Jan 2015, Worker, Amanda wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry, I misunderstood.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've attached a screenshot of what I can see, it does look like
>>>>>> there is probably a different problem now as both the
>>>>>> dtifit_FA.nii.gz and aparc+aseg.bbr.nii are completely off centre.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Amanda
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>> From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>> <freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Anastasia
>>>>>> Yendiki <ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>>> Sent: 13 January 2015 17:52
>>>>>> To: Freesurfer support list
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] TRACULA mask error
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's impossible to know unless you actually check the registration.
>>>>>> See my
>>>>>> previous email below on how to do that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 13 Jan 2015, Worker, Amanda wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have edited the trac-preproc script to "--init-header" instead
>>>>>>> of "--init-fsl" - hoping that this would fix the registration
>>>>>>> problem. Perhaps this hasn't helped?
>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>> From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>>> <freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Anastasia
>>>>>>> Yendiki <ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>>>> Sent: 12 January 2015 19:58
>>>>>>> To: Freesurfer support list
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] TRACULA mask error
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have you checked that the registration has been fixed? It looks
>>>>>>> like it
>>>>>>> might not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 12 Jan 2015, Worker, Amanda wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes of course. Please find attached.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Amanda
>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>>> From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>>>> <freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Anastasia
>>>>>>>> Yendiki <ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>>>>> Sent: 12 January 2015 16:39
>>>>>>>> To: Freesurfer support list
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] TRACULA mask error
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can you please attach the entire trac-all.log file? It's hard to
>>>>>>>> tell just
>>>>>>>> from the last few lines, the initial error may have happened much
>>>>>>>> earlier.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 12 Jan 2015, Worker, Amanda wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Anastasia,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your response. I have made the changes that you
>>>>>>>>> recommended and attempted to run trac-all -prep on one of the
>>>>>>>>> subjects with errors. I am now getting the following error:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Writing output files to
>>>>>>>>> /home/k1204763/images/bbreg_TRAC/TRACULA_OUTPUT/PDPLUS010/dlabel/mni/lh.cst_AS_avg33_mni_bbr_*
>>>>>>>>> Writing spline volumes to
>>>>>>>>> /home/k1204763/images/bbreg_TRAC/TRACULA_OUTPUT/PDPLUS010/dlabel/mni/lh.cst_AS_avg33_mni_bbr_cpts_6.nii.gz
>>>>>>>>> Segmentation fault
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> trac-preproc-edit exited with ERRORS at Fri Jan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do you have any idea what the problem could be now?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Amanda
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>>>>> [freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] on behalf of Anastasia
>>>>>>>>> Yendiki [ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
>>>>>>>>> Sent: 07 January 2015 17:11
>>>>>>>>> To: Freesurfer support list
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] TRACULA mask error
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Amanda - See attached screenshot of your data, there is a gross
>>>>>>>>> misregistration (~45 degree angle rotation) between the
>>>>>>>>> diffusion and
>>>>>>>>> anatomical. You can check if this is the case for the rest of
>>>>>>>>> your bad
>>>>>>>>> cases by superimposing the FA map (dmri/dtifit_FA.nii.gz) and
>>>>>>>>> anatomical
>>>>>>>>> segmentation mapped to diffusion space
>>>>>>>>> (dlabel/diff/aparc+aseg.bbr.nii).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> According to bbregister czar Doug, a big error like this in
>>>>>>>>> bbregister
>>>>>>>>> happens when the initialization of the registration fails. If the
>>>>>>>>> diffusion and T1 were acquired in the same session, you can try
>>>>>>>>> initializing the registration from the headers of the images, by
>>>>>>>>> running
>>>>>>>>> bbregister with "--init-header" instead of "--init-fsl".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You can try it on one of your subjects first. Search for the
>>>>>>>>> bbregister
>>>>>>>>> command line in trac-all.log of this subject and rerun
>>>>>>>>> bbregister with the
>>>>>>>>> changed option. Follow the instructions that bbregister prints
>>>>>>>>> out when
>>>>>>>>> it's done to check the registration.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To change how tracula does this, you'll have to edit the script
>>>>>>>>>        $FREESURFER_HOME/bin/trac-preproc
>>>>>>>>> Search for "bbregister" and edit the --init-fsl option. Then rerun
>>>>>>>>> trac-all for the subjects that had this problem. You can skip
>>>>>>>>> the first 2
>>>>>>>>> steps of the preprocessing, i.e., do trac-all -prep -nocorr -noqa.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps,
>>>>>>>>> a.y
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> PS: Yes, when you send something with filedrop that I should
>>>>>>>>> look at, give
>>>>>>>>> my email address as the recipient.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 7 Jan 2015, Worker, Amanda wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Anastasia,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your response. I have sent over a zip file via the
>>>>>>>>>> filedrop
>>>>>>>>>> portal, it seemed to fail each time I tried to send it to
>>>>>>>>>> freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu so I've sent it over to your email
>>>>>>>>>> address - hopefully you have received this.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've had a look at the segmentations and they look ok, so I
>>>>>>>>>> think there
>>>>>>>>>> may be an issue with registrating between the T1 and diffusion.
>>>>>>>>>> Anyway I
>>>>>>>>>> have sent an example over, hopefully this will give you some
>>>>>>>>>> idea of
>>>>>>>>>> what has gone wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Amanda
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>>>>>> <freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Anastasia
>>>>>>>>>> Yendiki <ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 11 December 2014 19:37
>>>>>>>>>> To: Freesurfer support list
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] TRACULA mask error
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Amanda - The final masks used by tracula are derived from the
>>>>>>>>>> structural and not the diffusion data, i.e., they are the
>>>>>>>>>> whole-brain
>>>>>>>>>> FreeSurfer segmentations (from mri/aparc+aseg.mgz) mapped onto
>>>>>>>>>> diffusion
>>>>>>>>>> space and dilated slightly. It may be that there was something
>>>>>>>>>> wrong with
>>>>>>>>>> the FreeSurfer reconstructions of those subjects (if, for
>>>>>>>>>> example, the T1
>>>>>>>>>> contrast was poorer in part of the brain and the part was not
>>>>>>>>>> included in
>>>>>>>>>> the brain mask), or that there was misregistration between the
>>>>>>>>>> T1 and
>>>>>>>>>> diffusion. You can troubleshoot this by looking at the
>>>>>>>>>> aparc+aseg in
>>>>>>>>>> diffusion space (from the dlabel/diff directory, over the FA
>>>>>>>>>> map (from the
>>>>>>>>>> dmri directory).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you still have trouble deciding what went wrong, you can
>>>>>>>>>> upload a zip
>>>>>>>>>> file for me with all the directories created by trac-all (dmri,
>>>>>>>>>> dlabel,
>>>>>>>>>> etc) for one of these subjects, here:
>>>>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gate.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu_filedrop2_&d=AwICAg&c=FGzDrZ8hK6OoO1oc9Smc5viw6E0cF__gglPkcFwC2N8&r=ffK64aaMIE1GqLjcz0w1FGZ_6Mr7vi1gDBqjGMI4TaEnGxgSIdq3bd_mOh9MSBnd&m=UhsLycigCHMsEqakbi9FEaSyxA12muzKL7XCcvWFgCQ&s=-niii2hyPI9_6kgSmcwH62QFRrqZ648V-V-NIEn57Q4&e=
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>> a.y
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Nov 2014, Worker, Amanda wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have run all of the pre-processing steps on my DTI data and
>>>>>>>>>>> as I am
>>>>>>>>>>> checking my nodif_brain_mask I have realised that some of the
>>>>>>>>>>> masks have
>>>>>>>>>>> become distorted and twisted in some way. I have attached
>>>>>>>>>>> screenshots of
>>>>>>>>>>> both the raw data (which looks fine) and the white mask (which is
>>>>>>>>>>> distorted). In addition, as I have read that it is important
>>>>>>>>>>> to check the
>>>>>>>>>>> dtifit_V1 and dtifit_FA I have also included these in the word
>>>>>>>>>>> document,
>>>>>>>>>>> incase this helps.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This distortion has occured for approximately a quarter of the
>>>>>>>>>>> subjects that
>>>>>>>>>>> I have processed and the rest look good. Please can you let me
>>>>>>>>>>> know if you
>>>>>>>>>>> have any ideas about what has gone wrong and how to fix this?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance for your help,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Amanda
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 15:24:02 +0000
> From: Konrad Wagstyl <kw...@cam.ac.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Interhemispheric registration of .mgh files
> To: Freesurfer support list <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
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> Thanks. The mris_apply_reg works like a charm. Just to clarify for anyone 
> interested, these commands register both left and right .mgh files to lh 
> fsaverage_sym.
>
> Cheers,
> Konrad
>
>> On 11 Feb 2015, at 23:05, Douglas Greve <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>
>> btw, to check, you can run this on the thicknesses and compare to what
>> you get with mris_preproc
>>
>> On 2/11/15 6:01 PM, Douglas Greve wrote:
>>> Probably easier to use mris_apply_reg, something like
>>>
>>> mris_apply_reg --src lh.w-g.pct.mgh --trg xhemi.lh.w-g.pct.mgh \
>>>    --streg $SUBJECTS_DIR/$subject/surf/lh.fsaverage_sym.sphere.reg \
>>>               $SUBJECTS_DIR/fsaverage_sym/surf/lh.sphere.reg
>>>
>>> mris_apply_reg --src rh.w-g.pct.mgh --trg xhemi.rh.w-g.pct.mgh \
>>>    --streg $SUBJECTS_DIR/$subject/xhemi/surf/lh.fsaverage_sym.sphere.reg \
>>>               $SUBJECTS_DIR/fsaverage_sym/surf/lh.sphere.reg
>>>
>>> In the 2nd command line (for rh), lh.fsaverage_sym.sphere.reg is used.
>>> This is intentional; the left hemis in the xhemi folder are actually
>>> right hemis.
>>>
>>> doug
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/11/15 4:12 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
>>>> Hi Konrad
>>>>
>>>> you should be able to do this with mri_surf2surf, although the syntax
>>>> might be tricky.
>>>>
>>>> cheers
>>>> Bruce
>>>> On Mon, 9 Feb 2015, Konrad Wagstyl wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> We're having some trouble using interhemispheric registration. It works 
>>>>> fine for files that are automatically registered eg thickness, volume 
>>>>> etc. but not for mgh files, like ?h.w-g.pct.mgh.
>>>>> Is there a way of adding files to xhemi/surf/ so that other surfaces 
>>>>> files can be compared between hemispheres?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Konrad
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