Hi Michele,

Yes, tracula would have complained at the very first call, if the dwi data was not there.

So here is the problem, you write:
setenv /Users/michele/Desktop/tracula/sages_diff_test_tracula/SD000040_1/FSout_P00000401_e20130813_s002_Cor7minMDEFT_T1_b

in the very first line in your config file, it should read

setenv SUBJECTS_DIR /Users/michele/Desktop/tracula/sages_diff_test_tracula/SD000040_1/FSout_P00000401_e20130813_s002_Cor7minMDEFT_T1_b

The problem was that recon-all files were not found (because the path was never set to the right environment variable SUBJECTS_DIR.
Try now.

Best,
Barbara


On 03/09/2014 18:04, Michele Cavallari wrote:
Hi Barbara,
I checked the path. The folder with the trac-all output is is the very same folder of the dwi dicoms.
Attached is the dmrirc file I am using, with all the specs.
Thanks


On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Barbara Kreilkamp <bakk....@googlemail.com <mailto:bakk....@googlemail.com>> wrote:

    Hi Michele,

    You would have to make sure that the files are written to the same
    folder for both commands (recon-all and trac-all)
    Right now it seems you wrote the output of recon-all to
    /PHShome/my738/FSout/FSout_P00000401_e20130813_s002_Cor7minMDEFT_T1_b/

    and trac-all output to
     /Users/michele/Desktop/tracula/sages_diff_test_tracula/SD000040_1/

    This is what the code was looking for but did not find:
    Location of aparc+aseg's relative to base:
    dlabel/mni/aparc+aseg.nii.gz

    What path did you specify for the T1 segmentations (by recon-all)
    in your configuration file?

    Hope it helps,
    All the best,
    Barbara


    On 03.09.14 17:31, Michele Cavallari wrote:
    Hi Barbara,
    thanks again for your help.
    I checked the bvecs file using the 'more' command, and (as you
    pointed out) there was some extra text. This was likely due to
    MS-excel formatting, which I have used to reshape the bvecs file
    from row to column configuration. Such extra text was not part of
    the original bvecs file organized in rows though, but tracula was
    not giving errors as well.
    So, take home message#1
    It is not true that FreeSurfer 5.3 allows both rows and columns
    configuration of the bvecs (as stated in the wiki page). Or at
    least that's not true for all the scanners. I'd recommend a
    column configuration of the bvecs, even with FreeSurfer 5.3.
    Also - take home message#2
    verify that there's no extra text due to excel formatting in the
    reshaped bvecs file.

    That said, now this lead me to the next error!
    It seems that there's a problem with the recon-all output that
    I'm using (?). However, both the log file and the output of the
    recon-all processing seem fine to me.
    Here is the detail of the error message I am getting
    ERROR: fio_pushd: path/to/dlabel/mni
    And attached are the log files of both tracula pre-processing
    (with errors) and recon-all (apparently without errors).

    Any help/suggestions?
    Thanks.



    On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 5:51 AM, Barbara Kreilkamp
    <bakk....@googlemail.com <mailto:bakk....@googlemail.com>> wrote:

        Hi Michele,

        This might be the solution - try the command 'more' in unix
        on your column bvec and bval, they should each have one
        (bval) and three (bvec) columns and no strange symbols. But
        you have these symbols in the bvec-file (probably because you
        have extra formatting information, that is not needed and an
        obstacle to Tracula).

        more original_columns.bval

        0

        0

        0

        0

        0

        1000

        1000

        1000

        1000

        1000

        1000

        1000

        1000

        1000

        1000

        1000

        1000

        1000

        1000

        1000

        1000

        1000

        1000

        1000

        1000

        1000

        1000

        1000

        1000

        1000

        1000

        1000

        1000

        1000

        1000

        NEURO-222:tracula_help NEURO-222$ more original_columns.bvec

        0 0 0

        0 0 0 ^M0 0 0 ^M0 0 0 ^M0 0 0 ^M-1 0 0 ^M-0.166 0.986 0
        ^M0.11 0.664 0.74 ^M-0.901 -0.419 -0.11 ^M0.169 -0.601 0.781
        ^M0.815 -0.386 0.433 ^M-0.656 0.366 0.66 ^M^M-0.582 0.8 0.143
        ^M-0.9 0.259 0.35 ^M-0.693 -0.698 0.178 ^M-0.357 -0.924 -0.14
        ^M-0.543 -0.488 -0.683 ^M0.525 -0.396 0.753 ^M0.639 0.689
        0.341 ^M0.33 -0.013 -0.944 ^M0.524 -0.783 0.335 ^M-0.609
        -0.065 -0.791 ^M-0.22 -0.233 -0.947 ^M0.004 -0.91 -0.415
        ^M0.511 0.627 -0.589 ^M-0.414 0.737 0.535 ^M0.679 0.139
        -0.721 ^M-0.884 -0.296 0.362 ^M-0.262 0.432 0.863 ^M-0.088
        0.185 -0.979 ^M-0.294 -0.907 0.302 ^M-0.887 -0.089 -0.453
        ^M-0.257 -0.443 0.859 ^M-0.086 0.867 -0.491 ^M-0.863 0.504
        -0.025


        You are ending up with multiple columns in the second row,
        please make sure they are 3 columns.


        Good luck,

        Barbara



        On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Barbara Kreilkamp
        <bakk....@googlemail.com <mailto:bakk....@googlemail.com>> wrote:

            Hi Michele,

            Do you use the dicoms or the nifti files as input to TRACULA?
            Also, I think the complete trac-all.log could be even
            more helpful.
            I am a newbie myself but I am having a similar problem,
            so I am trying to find a solution as well :).

            Best,
            Barbara


            On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Michele Cavallari
            <mic...@bwh.harvard.edu <mailto:mic...@bwh.harvard.edu>>
            wrote:

                Hi Barbara,
                thanks for your reply. I checked the dwi series on a
                viewer and it looks
                fine: I have 1960 dicoms, corresponding to 56 slices
                x 35 directions
                specified in the bval/bvec. Also, I was able to
                obtain the FA and MD maps
                through fsl using the very same dicoms and bval/bvec.
                Any suggestion?
                Thanks


                On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Barbara Kreilkamp
                <bakk....@googlemail.com
                <mailto:bakk....@googlemail.com>> wrote:
                Dear Michele,

                I cannot find anything wrong with your bvec and bval
                files.
                Seeing as you had an errormessage related to the dwi
                (the one about the
                dwi_frame.nii.gz): Did you check that your dwi data
                have the same amount of
                volumes as entries in bvec and bval?

                Good luck,
                Barbara



                On 28/08/2014 22:47, Michele Cavallari wrote:
                Hi,
                I'm having some problems with the first command of
                the tracula pipeline.
                I am using FreeSurfer 5.3 on a mac (OS 10.9).
                The problem seems to be related to the bvecs file. I
                received the following
                error message:
                niiRead(): error opening file
                /path/to/dmri/dwi_frame.nii.gz

                I read some threads available on your website, but
                couldn't figured out a
                solution yet. I tried to organize the bvecs in
                columns, as opposed to the
                original configuration in rows. By doing that and
                re-launching the
                pre-processing command I obtained a differente error
                message:
                Error: bvecs and bvals don't have the same number of
                entries

                The original bvals and bvecs files seem to have the
                same numbers of entries
                to me. But the bvecs file produced by the processing
                - both the bvecs.norot
                and the bvecs files in the dmri folder - don't have
                all the information of
                the vectors.

                I am enclosing a zip folder with attachments:
                1) original bvecs and bvals files organized in rows
                and columns
                2) bvecs and bvals files generated by tracula
                3) error logs

                Let me know if you need any other information.
                Thanks in advance for your help.


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