You need a program whose name I can't remember. Bruce, what is the name 
of the program to create a surface midway between white and pial?

Don, you can use this to create the mid surface (or project it to any 
depth) and to create a surface that is just inside the WM (use a 
negative projection distance). Then when you run mri_annotation2label 
specify each of these surfaces with --surf (you'll have to run it twice 
to get labels for each surface)



On 08/13/2014 02:31 PM, Krieger, Donald N. wrote:
> Thanks for posting back so quickly and for the clarifications.
> What I am looking for is a list of vectors which are in the gray matter and a 
> 2nd list that are inside the nearby white matter.
>
> It sounds like the "white" are inside the white matter but near the boundary 
> with the gray.
> Is it reasonable to rely on each of these to be inside the white matter for 
> at least say 1/2 mm in all directions from its xyz coordinate?
>
> You mention lists of nearest neighbors ... where may these be found as I 
> definitely would like to use them or else likely must generate my own.
> In order to get the coordinates of a vector within the nearby gray matter, I 
> was thinking to use a neighbor, perhaps not nearest but certainly close, in 
> the direction of the nearest "pial" vector.  What do you think?
>
> An alternative is to use a nearby vector from the list in "ribbon" for the 
> gray matter.
>
> Regards,
>   
> Don
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:freesurfer-
>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Douglas N Greve
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 2:21 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] a few short confirmatory questions
>>
>>
>> On 08/13/2014 02:11 PM, Krieger, Donald N. wrote:
>>> mri_annotation2label enables extraction of vectors from .annot files
>>> to .label files, one file per label.
>>>
>>> One may choose orig, white, or pial vectors.
>>>
>>> (1)orig vectors are on the cortical surface. The gray scale value for
>>> each of these is that of gray matter, correct? And these are inside
>>> the pia and outside "white," correct?
>>>
>> orig is the first surface created by tessellating the white matter. It is a 
>> coarse,
>> jagged surface on the voxel boundary. The white is the orig refined to follow
>> the GM/WM boundary better. The orig is definitely inside the pia, but one
>> cannot make a statement about its position relative to the white. I don't
>> know what you mean by the gray scale value. The surface just has xyz values
>> and lists of nearest neighbors.
>>> (2)white vectors are at the surface of the white matter just below the
>>> "orig" layer, correct? Their gray scale value is that of white matter,
>>> correct?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Don
>>>
>>>
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