Thanks Martin, I tried that on version 5.1 and it worked.

Regards
Koushik


From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
[mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] On Behalf Of Martin Reuter
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 9:55 AM
To: Govindarajan, Koushik Athreya; freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] adding time points to longitudinal base template 
{Disarmed} {Disarmed}

Hi Koushik,

there seems to be a bug. There's a safety check (that usually makes sense) but 
when adding a tp, of course it is not yet contained in the base.

Fix it by:

For Version 5.3 change the line 6148 in recon-all from
        if ( ! $found_tpNid  ) then
to
        if ( ! $found_tpNid  && ! $DoAddTp ) then


for 5.1 change line 5407 from
        if ($status) then
to
        if ( $status && ! $DoAddTp ) then


Good luck, Martin
On 03/19/2014 12:56 PM, Govindarajan, Koushik Athreya wrote:
Hi Martin,

     I use version 5.1. I did try this with version 5.3 also but I end up with 
the same error:

recon-all -long 23061_ip cr096_base -addtp -all
ERROR: 23061_ip is not in /home/koushikg/data/longitudinal/cr096_base/base-tps

Thanks
Koushik


From: 
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 [mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] On Behalf Of Martin Reuter
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 11:21 AM
To: Govindarajan, Koushik Athreya; 
freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] adding time points to longitudinal base template 
{Disarmed}

Hi Koushik,

What version are you using? Not sure when we added this, maybe in 5.2. So you 
would need 5.3 for it.

If you use 5.3 already, can you send me the exact command and output.

Thanks, Martin
On 03/19/2014 11:50 AM, Govindarajan, Koushik Athreya wrote:
Hi Martin,

      I tried this method of -addtp to add a new time point but recon-all 
failed with the message saying my new timepoint was not in the 'base-tps' file 
of the base template. Should I be doing something else before I run this step?

Thanks
Koushik


From: Martin Reuter [mailto:mreu...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 9:31 AM
To: Govindarajan, Koushik Athreya; 
freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] adding time points to longitudinal base template

Hi Koushik,

there is a way to add time points without recreating the base:
  recon-all -long <tpNsubjid> <longbasesubjid> -addtp -all

This is what the recon-all help says about that:
"If a new timepoint needs to be added to a longitudinal run where a base subject
has already been created (from prior timepoints), then the -addtp command
can be added to the -long command in order to 'fix-up' the longitudinal
stream to accept the new timepoint. Note that the base subject is *not*
recomputed using the new timepoint. This potentially introduces a bias, and it
is recommended to NOT add a time point this way! Instead recreate the base
from all time points and run all longitudinals again."

So it's up to you. But given you already have 5 time points in your base and 
add only 1, you may be fine. The base should be pretty stable with 5 and if the 
6th is not too different, it should not matter much. I don't think anyone has 
ever done a thorough analysis about adding time points.

Best, Martin



On 03/11/2014 10:08 AM, Govindarajan, Koushik Athreya wrote:
Dear FS experts,

           I have a serial study in which I have run cross-sectional and 
longitudinal analysis on 5 time points. Now, I want to add a 6th time point to 
my dataset. Do I have to rerun my base template creation step from scratch or 
is there a way to just add further time points to an existing template?

Thanks
Koushik







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