no, it does not include cerebellum
On 06/03/2013 01:42 PM, Ritobrato Datta wrote:
> In the website below,
> lhCorticalWhiteMatter,rhCorticalWhiteMatter,CorticalWhiteMatter - volume 
> inside the white surface minus anything that is not WM. CorticalWhiteMatter 
> includes hypointensities. This uses the surface-based volume computation for 
> part of the calculation and counts voxels to subtract "anything not in WM". 
> It is approximately equal to the count of WM voxels in aparc+aseg.mgz.
>
> Since, cerebellar wm is in the aparc+aseg.mgz so that means its included in 
> the CorticalWhiteMatter, correct ?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Douglas N Greve <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
> To: Ritobrato Datta <rida...@mail.med.upenn.edu>
> Cc: Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
> Sent: Mon, 03 Jun 2013 13:19:54 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Repost: question abt supratentorial vol and total 
> brain vol.
>
>
> See if this answers your question
> http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/MorphometryStats
> this is for v5.2 and beyond
>
> On 06/03/2013 01:07 PM, Ritobrato Datta wrote:
>> ic thats right....I was getting confused. So the total gm vol includes 
>> cerebellar gm vol but the cortical wm vol only includes the wm vol under the 
>> cortical ribbon and around the subcortical gm structures....?  Or does that 
>> include wm under the cerebellar cortex as well ?
>>
>> Is there a table somewhere which specifies which of these freesurfer 
>> parcellated structures contribute to these combined measures such has 
>> supratentorial vol / whole gm vol etc etc....
>>
>> That will be very helpful.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Douglas N Greve <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>> To: Ritobrato Datta <rida...@mail.med.upenn.edu>, 
>> Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>> Sent: Mon, 03 Jun 2013 12:59:30 -0400 (EDT)
>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Repost: question abt supratentorial vol and total 
>> brain vol.
>>
>>
>> Hi Rito, I don't think we report a total wm volume, do we?
>> doug
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 06/03/2013 12:56 PM, Ritobrato Datta wrote:
>>> Hi Doug,
>>>
>>> Just following up on your reply sometime back -
>>> Does total white volume include cerebellar wm vol also ?
>>>
>>> Please let me know.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Rito
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Douglas N Greve <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>> To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>> Sent: Fri, 24 May 2013 17:36:18 -0400 (EDT)
>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Repost: question abt supratentorial vol and total 
>>> brain vol.
>>>
>>> Total Gray includes the cerebellar gray
>>> doug
>>> On 05/24/2013 03:51 PM, Ritobrato Datta wrote:
>>>> Hello All,
>>>>
>>>> Can someone address the following ? I sent this query yesterday but it 
>>>> fell through the cracks.
>>>>
>>>> I am using freesurfer 5.1 for my analysis.
>>>>
>>>> I am interested in calculating the whole brain vol (total Gray vol + total 
>>>> WM vol) excluding the CSF volume and cerebellum.
>>>>
>>>> Total Brain Vol = TotalGrayVol + CorticalWhiteMatterVol
>>>>
>>>> In all of the 79 subjects, when I compare the Total Brain Vol to 
>>>> SupraTentorialVol, I find SupraTentorialVol is smaller than the Total 
>>>> Brain Vol I have calculated.
>>>>
>>>> Here are some measures -
>>>>
>>>> For 79 subjects -
>>>>
>>>> Average Total Brain Vol = 1038395.291
>>>>
>>>> Average SupraTentorialVol = 979996.4684
>>>>
>>>> Is that expected ?
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible that CSF vol is part of Total Brain Vol ?
>>>>
>>>> Any insight will be helpful.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Rito
>>>>
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