Hi Stan, I don't think you have to correct thickness for head size or grey matter volume, but you should do so for subcortical volumes. Whether you use ICV or GM volume or brain volume depends on what you believe is happening and what hypotheses you want to test. Check out the paper by Randy Buckner on estimating ICV from the talairach transform:
http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/eTIV?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=buckner2004.pdf doug On 12/10/2012 11:34 AM, Berg, S.F. van den wrote: > > Hi Freesurfer Experts, > > Just to make it sure i have a question about correcting for cranial size. > > I compared two groups, 100 patients versus 50 Controls. I entered a > discrete variable 'groups' (Patients: 1 and controls:2) in qdec. For > cortical thickness difference between these groups, do i have to > control for total intracranial volume? ICV (intra cranial volume is > output from aseg2tables) or controlling for another variable which > estimate total brain volume, like total gray matter or supra tentorial > volume? > > In my correlation analyses, relating cognitive peformance and cortical > thickness within the patient group. Do i have to control for ICV or > Total gray matter? besides the variable age, gender and education. > > I think only volume differences between groups need controlling for > ICV, is that correct? > > And in my correlation analyses, relating cognitive performance ato > subcortical volume within the patient group. Do i have to control for > ICV or Total gray matter? besides the variables age, gender and education. > > Do you have a reference to a methodological paper, which descibes > different (anatomical) nuisance factors and their influence on the > data? Is there a automated correction for brain size in the cortical > and subcortical freesurfer stream (step of recon -all command)? > > Many Thanks, > > > Stan > > > > _______________________________________________ > Freesurfer mailing list > Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer -- Douglas N. Greve, Ph.D. MGH-NMR Center gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Phone Number: 617-724-2358 Fax: 617-726-7422 Bugs: surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting FileDrop: www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.html Outgoing: ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/ _______________________________________________ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly dispose of the e-mail.
