Hi Gabor,

I actually don't know, but I think Anastasia has a fix for the thresholding issue.

cheers
Bruce

On Wed, 11 Jul 2012, Gabor Perlaki wrote:

Dear Bruce,

Did you also identified a strong rightward asymmetry (with pars triangular
and BA44) in your data analyzed by freesurfer 5.1? Just, to be sure, that
this is not an issue only with our data. I'd like to use the TRACULA as
well, and because tracula uses the cortical parcellation of our subjects I'm
not sure that it is worth to start TRACULA now, or waiting for your cortical
parcellation fix.

Sorry for disturbing you again with the same issue, but it is very important
for us to know, that it is a real issue with the cortical parcellation or we
messed up something, and if it is a real issue, which labels we shouldn't
use for statistical analysis.

Thank you in advance for your answer,
Gabor


 

2012/6/25 Bruce Fischl <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
      sure. Thanks for pointing out the BA44 issue.  We'll put
      together a fix in the next couple of weeks
      Bruce
      On Mon, 25 Jun 2012, Gabor Perlaki wrote:

            Dear Bruce,

            I've checked the pars triangularis. It was
            right-lateralized in 79 subjects
            and left-lateralized in only 19 subjects.

            Thanks, Gabor

            2012/6/23 Bruce Fischl <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
                  the structures don't need a threshold. Do you
            know that pars
                  triangularis is left lateralized? For the BAs
            will get you a
                  solution

                  On Sat, 23 Jun 2012, Gabor Perlaki wrote:

                        Dear Bruce,

                        We don't used any thresholding by
            ourselves, we just
                        took BA44 volumes out
                        of the text-file in the stats directory.
                        Should we use thresholded values instead
            of the
                        volumes reported by the text
                        files in the stats directory?
                        Could we use the volumes reported by the
            aparc.stats
                        and aseg.stats files
                        for any statistical analyses, or do we
            need
                        threshold that structures as
                        well?


                        Thanks,
                        Gabor

                        2012/6/23 Bruce Fischl
            <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
                             Hi Gabor

                             are you thresholding the BA4 label?
            In 5.2 we
                        will distribute
                             some tools to automatically
            threshold the
                        labels so that the
                             predicted area has the average area
            of the
                        input labels. The
                             right BA44 had more spatial spread
            than the
                        left, so you might
                             be including a lot of low
            probability vertices.

                             cheers
                             Bruce

                             On Sat, 23 Jun 2012, Gabor Perlaki
            wrote:

                                   Dear Bruce,

                                   In the paper "Left-right
            asymmetry in
                        volume and
                                   number of neurons in adult
                                   Broca's area." by Katrin
            Amunts, 10
                        subjects (5 men
                                   and 5 women) were
                                   studied, and the volume of
            BA44 was
                        greater in the
                                   left hemisphere than in
                                   the right in all ten cases.
            So, it is
                        very strange
                                   that the volume of BA44
                                   was greater in the right
            hemisphere in
                        all of the 80
                                   subjects analyzed by
                                   Eniko.

                                   Thanks,
                                   Gabor




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