Can you send a pic?

noam Schneck wrote:
> Nevertheless when I use that register.dat to view a statmap on the 
> anatomical space (which is the same registration from epi to t1 space) 
> I have activation outside of the brain. I understand that BBR has 
> aligned the images well, but it seems not to have scaled the EPI image 
> down enough so that it fits within the T1 image. 
>
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Douglas N Greve 
> <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote:
>
>     That registration appears to be ok. Remember, that is the boundary
>     between the cortical gray and white matter, not the edge of the
>     brain or skull, so it should be interior.
>     doug
>
>     noam Schneck wrote:
>
>         Here are slices from the registration.  
>         On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Douglas N Greve
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>            You should not need to adjust the registration. The surface
>         should
>            follow the gray white boundary in the EPI (hard to see but
>         there).
>            Can you send a pic of the green surface on the EPI with the
>            default registration (ie, without you making changes)?
>
>            noam Schneck wrote:
>
>                It is from an individual. I checked the registration, the
>                green surface outline seems well within the movable EPI
>         image.
>                I can scale it down manually and than the zstat, with the
>                scaled down register.dat, fits within the anatomical.
>         Is this
>                the only solution?
>
>                On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Douglas N Greve
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>
>                   Is this a zmap from the individual run or the gfeat? If
>                   individual, double check the registration with
>                    tkregister2 --mov example_func.nii.gz --reg
>                anat2exf.register.dat
>                   --surfs
>                   If from a gfeat, then you should use
>         anat2std.register.dat,
>                like
>
>                   tkmedit bert orig.mgz -overlay zstat1.nii.gz
>         -overlay-reg
>                   anat2exf.register.dat -fthresh 2.3 -fmax 4.3 -aux
>         brain.mgz
>                -seg
>                   aparc+aseg.mgz
>
>                   doug
>
>                   noam Schneck wrote:
>
>                       Hi,
>                       Here is the command line for viewing the zstat
>         from a
>                single
>                       subject single run, in which I ran into the same
>                problem. I've
>                       also attached a screenshot of the tkmedit image:
>                 tkmedit bert
>                       bert/mri/orig.mgz -overlay zstat1.nii.gz
>         -overlay-reg
>                       anat2exf.register.dat -fthresh 2.3 -fmax 4.3 -aux
>                       bert/mri/brain.mgz -seg bert/mri/aparc+aseg.mgz
>                       Thank you so much for your help,
>                       Noam
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>
>                          noam Schneck wrote:
>
>                              Hi Doug
>
>                              Here are more detailed versions of my
>         first two
>                questions.
>                              1) I used tkmedit to look at the mean_func
>                produced by
>                       a gfeat
>                              analysis of one subject's three
>         functional runs
>                       overlayed onto
>                              the anatomical image produced by recon-all on
>                that same
>                              subject(bert/mri/orig.mgz). The registration
>                matrix I
>                       used was
>                              the anat2std.dat that was produced by running
>                       reg-feat2anat on
>                              all three of the feat analyses from the
>         individual
>                       runs. When
>                              I did this I saw that the mean_func image was
>                outside the
>                              boundaries of the anatomical image.
>                Correspondingly, when I
>                              overlayed the zstat.nii.gz from the gfeat
>                analysis onto the
>                              anatomical image I had activation outside
>         of the
>                anatomical
>                              image brain.
>
>                          What was the command line?
>
>
>                              2)  Originally, I ran BBR on a subject that I
>                had run
>                              Recon-all for.  I used BBR to register the
>                       example_func.nii.gz
>                              to the bert/mri/orig.mgz. I had BBR output an
>                fsl.mat.
>                        I then
>                              used ApplyXFM in fsl to apply BBR's
>         fsl.mat to
>                register the
>                              example_func.nii.gz onto a T1 image that
>         had been
>                       created by
>                              converting bert/mri/brainmask.mgz into
>         niftii with
>                              mri_convert. I tried it again, this time
>                converting the
>                              orig.mgz to niftii. In both cases the
>                example_func in
>                       T1 space
>                              image produced by ApplyXFM is rotated
>         about 90
>                degrees and
>                              also inverted.  This is viewed in
>         fslview, I have
>                       attached a
>                              screenshot. The corresponding T1 images
>         created by
>                       mri_convert
>                              are not.  What can I do to allow me to
>         use BBR's
>                fsl.mat
>                              within ApplyXFM?
>
>                              Here is the header info for the T2*_T1 image
>                attached
>                       to this
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>                              aux_file                     Thank you,
>                              Noam
>
>                              On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Douglas
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>                                 Hi Noam,
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>
>                                 noam Schneck wrote:
>
>                                     Hi,
>
>                                     I am trying to use reg-feat2anat to
>                register my Feat
>                              analyses
>                                     to anatomical images and running
>         into a
>                number
>                       of problems.
>                                     1) When I check the registration
>         of the
>                       mean_func to the
>                                     anatomical in tkregister2 it looks
>         fine. But
>                       when I overlay
>                                     the fsl statmaps onto the anatomical
>                brain they
>                       extend
>                              outside
>                                     of boundaries of the anatomical brain.
>
>                                 Need more detail. What command are you
>         using to
>                       visualize?
>
>
>                                     2) Also, before using
>         reg-feat2anat. I was
>                       trying to do the
>                                     EPI_2_structural registration in FLIRT
>                with the
>                       fsl.mat
>                                     produced by BBR. When I try this the
>                registered
>                       image is
>                                     rotated 90 degrees from the original
>                image.  Why
>                       does
>                              that happen?
>
>                                 More detail needed. What program did
>         you run?
>                What
>                              visualization
>                                 tool? This will align the anatomical
>         in the
>                       conformed space
>                              to the
>                                 EPI, so make sure you're using the right
>                anatomical.
>
>
>                                     3) I also noticed that if I look
>         at the
>                header
>                              information for
>                                     an image in fslhd and mri_info the
>                orientations are
>                              flipped.
>                                     If the fslhd orientation is RAS it
>         will
>                be LPI
>                       in mri_info.
>                                     Could this be related to what is
>         happening in
>                       question (2)?
>
>                                 Need more detail. What images are you
>         looking at?
>
>                                 In general, you have to tell us
>         specifically what
>                       you are
>                              doing.
>                                 It's going to be very hard to help
>         with vague
>                       descriptions.
>                                 doug
>
>
>                                     Best,
>                                     Noam
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>                       <tel:617-726-7422 <tel:617-726-7422>
>         <tel:617-726-7422 <tel:617-726-7422>>>
>                          <tel:617-726-7422 <tel:617-726-7422>
>         <tel:617-726-7422 <tel:617-726-7422>>
>                <tel:617-726-7422 <tel:617-726-7422> <tel:617-726-7422
>         <tel:617-726-7422>>>>
>
>                          Bugs:
>         surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting
>         <http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting>
>                <http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting>
>                      
>         <http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting>
>                        
>          <http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting>
>                          FileDrop:
>                      
>         www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.html
>         <http://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.html>
>              
>          <http://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.html>
>                            
>          <http://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.html>
>                                
>         <http://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.html>
>
>
>
>                            
>          
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>                   --     Douglas N. Greve, Ph.D.
>                   MGH-NMR Center
>                   gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>         <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>                <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>         <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>>
>                <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>         <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>                <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>         <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>>>
>                   Phone Number: 617-724-2358 <tel:617-724-2358>
>         <tel:617-724-2358 <tel:617-724-2358>>
>                <tel:617-724-2358 <tel:617-724-2358> <tel:617-724-2358
>         <tel:617-724-2358>>> Fax: 617-726-7422 <tel:617-726-7422>
>                <tel:617-726-7422 <tel:617-726-7422>>
>                   <tel:617-726-7422 <tel:617-726-7422>
>         <tel:617-726-7422 <tel:617-726-7422>>>
>
>                   Bugs: surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting
>         <http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting>
>                <http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting>
>                   <http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting>
>                   FileDrop:
>                www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.html
>         <http://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.html>
>              
>          <http://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.html>
>                  
>         <http://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.html>
>
>
>
>            --     Douglas N. Greve, Ph.D.
>            MGH-NMR Center
>            gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>         <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>         <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>         <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>>
>            Phone Number: 617-724-2358 <tel:617-724-2358>
>         <tel:617-724-2358 <tel:617-724-2358>> Fax: 617-726-7422
>         <tel:617-726-7422>
>            <tel:617-726-7422 <tel:617-726-7422>>
>
>            Bugs: surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting
>         <http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting>
>            <http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting>
>            FileDrop:
>         www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.html
>         <http://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.html>
>            <http://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.html>
>
>
>
>         
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>     -- 
>     Douglas N. Greve, Ph.D.
>     MGH-NMR Center
>     gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>     Phone Number: 617-724-2358 <tel:617-724-2358> Fax: 617-726-7422
>     <tel:617-726-7422>
>
>     Bugs: surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting
>     <http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting>
>     FileDrop: www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.html
>     <http://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.html>
>
>

-- 
Douglas N. Greve, Ph.D.
MGH-NMR Center
gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Phone Number: 617-724-2358 
Fax: 617-726-7422

Bugs: surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting
FileDrop: www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.html

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