Yes, they should be completely gone.

doug

Yang Liu wrote:
> Hi Doug,
>
> The cerebellem and the pons are still in the filled.mgz. Are they 
> supposed to be completely gone in filled.mgz?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Yang
>
> On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Douglas N Greve 
> <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote:
>
>     Did you look at the filled.mgz? Is it detached there?
>
>     doug
>
>     Yang Liu wrote:
>
>         Hi Doug,
>
>         Thank you for updating the description.
>         I still got the same problem as before. The processing stream
>         stopped at "CORRECTING DEFECT 15 (vertices=63586, convex
>         hull=4120)".
>
>         I followed the instructions to select cutting planes. I
>         attached the three views when I selecting the cutting plane
>         for pons.
>
>         The first is h-view-pons.jpg. The horizontal slice shows that
>         the brain stem is detached from other regions. The red cursor
>         in the picture is the point I selected from the pons.
>         The c-view-pons.jpg and the s-view-pons.jpg are the coronal
>         view and the sagittal view  I selected.
>
>         I did not get the point in the instruction that said "verify
>         with both the horizontal view and the coronal view that your
>         cursor is central in all three views,  adjust as necessary."
>         I did try to adjust the cursor location in the coronal view
>         and saggital view to be central. But after I make the
>         adjustment in the coronal view and sagittal view, I found that
>         the orignal cursor location in the horizontal view has also
>         been changed.
>
>         Is my understanding wrong?
>
>
>         Yang Liu
>
>         PostDoc
>         Wellesley College and HMS
>
>
>
>
>         *************************************************************
>         INFO: assuming .mgz format
>         $Id: mris_fix_topology.c,v 1.43 2007/01/05 16:57:16 nicks Exp $
>          $Id: mrisurf.c,v 1.557.2.19 2009/08/05 22:10:21 nicks Exp $
>         before topology correction, eno=-808 (nv=209380, nf=420376,
>         ne=630564, g=405)
>         using quasi-homeomorphic spherical map to tessellate cortical
>         surface...
>
>         Correction of the Topology
>         Finding true center and radius of Spherical Surface...done
>         Surface centered at (0,0,0) with radius 100.0 in 11 iterations
>         marking ambiguous vertices...
>         152885 ambiguous faces found in tessellation
>         segmenting defects...
>         67 defects found, arbitrating ambiguous regions...
>         analyzing neighboring defects...
>              -merging segment 1 into 0
>              -merging segment 2 into 0
>              -merging segment 15 into 0
>              -merging segment 7 into 6
>              -merging segment 0 into 20
>              -merging segment 44 into 25
>              -merging segment 38 into 32
>              -merging segment 28 into 42
>              -merging segment 54 into 52
>              -merging segment 60 into 59
>         57 defects to be corrected
>         0 vertices coincident
>         reading input surface
>         /home/yang/091017Castor/surf/lh.qsphere.nofix...
>         reading brain volume from brain...
>         reading wm segmentation from wm...
>         Computing Initial Surface Statistics
>              -face       loglikelihood: -8.7131  (-4.3565)
>              -vertex     loglikelihood: -5.4786  (-2.7393)
>              -normal dot loglikelihood: -3.3504  (-3.3504)
>              -quad curv  loglikelihood: -5.6067  (-2.8033)
>              Total Loglikelihood : -23.1488
>
>         CORRECTING DEFECT 0 (vertices=205, convex hull=133)
>         After retessellation of defect 0, euler #=-14
>         (129395,381695,252286) : difference with theory (-54) = -40
>
>         CORRECTING DEFECT 1 (vertices=429, convex hull=192)
>         After retessellation of defect 1, euler #=-13
>         (129414,381847,252420) : difference with theory (-53) = -40
>
>         CORRECTING DEFECT 2 (vertices=100, convex hull=82)
>         After retessellation of defect 2, euler #=-12
>         (129435,381948,252501) : difference with theory (-52) = -40
>
>         CORRECTING DEFECT 3 (vertices=271, convex hull=174)
>         After retessellation of defect 3, euler #=-11
>         (129487,382198,252700) : difference with theory (-51) = -40
>
>         CORRECTING DEFECT 4 (vertices=208, convex hull=101)
>         After retessellation of defect 4, euler #=-10
>         (129525,382356,252821) : difference with theory (-50) = -40
>
>         CORRECTING DEFECT 5 (vertices=68, convex hull=146)
>         After retessellation of defect 5, euler #=-9
>         (129563,382536,252964) : difference with theory (-49) = -40
>
>         CORRECTING DEFECT 6 (vertices=346, convex hull=162)
>         After retessellation of defect 6, euler #=-8
>         (129639,382836,253189) : difference with theory (-48) = -40
>
>         CORRECTING DEFECT 7 (vertices=36, convex hull=77)
>         After retessellation of defect 7, euler #=-7
>         (129648,382899,253244) : difference with theory (-47) = -40
>
>         CORRECTING DEFECT 8 (vertices=141, convex hull=128)
>         After retessellation of defect 8, euler #=-6
>         (129669,383017,253342) : difference with theory (-46) = -40
>
>         CORRECTING DEFECT 9 (vertices=45, convex hull=79)
>         After retessellation of defect 9, euler #=-5
>         (129687,383104,253412) : difference with theory (-45) = -40
>
>         CORRECTING DEFECT 10 (vertices=55, convex hull=103)
>         After retessellation of defect 10, euler #=-4
>         (129697,383174,253473) : difference with theory (-44) = -40
>
>         CORRECTING DEFECT 11 (vertices=6, convex hull=26)
>         After retessellation of defect 11, euler #=-3
>         (129699,383187,253485) : difference with theory (-43) = -40
>
>         CORRECTING DEFECT 12 (vertices=67, convex hull=105)
>         After retessellation of defect 12, euler #=-2
>         (129708,383259,253549) : difference with theory (-42) = -40
>
>         CORRECTING DEFECT 13 (vertices=27, convex hull=27)
>         After retessellation of defect 13, euler #=-1
>         (129712,383278,253565) : difference with theory (-41) = -40
>
>         CORRECTING DEFECT 14 (vertices=6, convex hull=11)
>         After retessellation of defect 14, euler #=0
>         (129712,383280,253568) : difference with theory (-40) = -40
>
>         CORRECTING DEFECT 15 (vertices=63586, convex hull=4120)
>
>         On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Douglas N Greve
>         <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>         <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>         <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>>> wrote:
>
>            Yes, fix the pons cutting plane. I've modified the text in that
>            link to be clearer. Let me know if you still have trouble.
>
>            doug
>
>            Yang Liu wrote:
>
>                Hi Doug,
>
>                Thanks for replying!
>                I checked the filled.mgz. The cerebellum is still attached.
>                How can I fix the problem? I am a new  user of Freesurfer.
>                My guess is to select the correct pons cutting plane. But I
>                found that the instruction on
>              
>          http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/Troubleshooting
>                is a little vague for me.
>                Are there further instructions (better with figure
>         examples)
>                available?
>
>                Thanks,
>
>                Yang Liu
>
>                PostDoc,
>                Wellesley College and HMS.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>                On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Douglas N Greve
>                <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>         <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>         <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>         <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>>
>                <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>         <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>                <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>         <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>>>> wrote:
>
>                   Have you looked at the filled.mgz volume to make
>         sure that
>                   cerebellum is not attached?
>
>                   doug
>
>                   Yang Liu wrote:
>
>                       Hi,
>
>                       I am processing the anatomical monkey brain now.
>                       When recon-all runs, it stops at the step of
>                "mris_fix_topology"
>
>                       I inserted the last part of my recon-all.log below:
>
>                       It stops at  "CORRECTING DEFECT 0
>         (vertices=65691, convex
>                       hull=4296)"
>                       for more than 12 hours. Does this step take that
>         long?
>                Or are
>                       there some problems in the data that make freesurfer
>                idling?
>
>                       Thanks,
>
>                       Yang
>
>
>                       #--------------------------------------------
>                       #...@# Fix Topology lh Sat Dec  4 17:01:16 EST 2010
>
>                        cp ../surf/lh.orig.nofix ../surf/lh.orig
>
>
>                        cp ../surf/lh.inflated.nofix ../surf/lh.inflated
>
>                       /home/yang/091017Castor/scripts
>
>                        mris_fix_topology -mgz -sphere qsphere.nofix
>         -ga -seed
>                1234
>                       091017Castor lh
>
>                       reading spherical homeomorphism from 'qsphere.nofix'
>                       using genetic algorithm with optimized parameters
>                       setting seed for random number genererator to 1234
>
>                            
>          *************************************************************
>                       Topology Correction Parameters
>                       retessellation mode:           genetic search
>                       number of patches/generation : 10
>                       number of generations :        10
>                       surface mri loglikelihood coefficient :         1.0
>                       volume mri loglikelihood coefficient :          10.0
>                       normal dot loglikelihood coefficient :          1.0
>                       quadratic curvature loglikelihood coefficient : 1.0
>                       volume resolution :                             2
>                       eliminate vertices during search :              1
>                       initial patch selection :                       1
>                       select all defect vertices :                    0
>                       ordering dependant retessellation:              0
>                       use precomputed edge table :                    0
>                       smooth retessellated patch :                    2
>                       match retessellated patch :                     1
>                       verbose mode :                                  0
>
>                            
>          *************************************************************
>                       INFO: assuming .mgz format
>                       $Id: mris_fix_topology.c,v 1.43 2007/01/05 16:57:16
>                nicks Exp $
>                        $Id: mrisurf.c,v 1.557.2.19 2009/08/05 22:10:21
>         nicks
>                Exp $
>                       before topology correction, eno=-810 (nv=213660,
>         nf=428940,
>                       ne=643410, g=406)
>                       using quasi-homeomorphic spherical map to tessellate
>                cortical
>                       surface...
>
>                       Correction of the Topology
>                       Finding true center and radius of Spherical
>         Surface...done
>                       Surface centered at (0,0,0) with radius 100.0 in 9
>                iterations
>                       marking ambiguous vertices...
>                       156279 ambiguous faces found in tessellation
>                       segmenting defects...
>                       64 defects found, arbitrating ambiguous regions...
>                       analyzing neighboring defects...
>                            -merging segment 14 into 0
>                            -merging segment 11 into 10
>                            -merging segment 23 into 18
>                            -merging segment 33 into 22
>                            -merging segment 40 into 22
>                            -merging segment 62 into 25
>                            -merging segment 39 into 34
>                            -merging segment 35 into 46
>                       56 defects to be corrected
>                       0 vertices coincident
>                       reading input surface
>                       /home/yang/091017Castor/surf/lh.qsphere.nofix...
>                       reading brain volume from brain...
>                       reading wm segmentation from wm...
>                       Computing Initial Surface Statistics
>                            -face       loglikelihood: -8.8048  (-4.4024)
>                            -vertex     loglikelihood: -5.5855  (-2.7928)
>                            -normal dot loglikelihood: -3.4654  (-3.4654)
>                            -quad curv  loglikelihood: -5.6070  (-2.8035)
>                            Total Loglikelihood : -23.4627
>
>                       CORRECTING DEFECT 0 (vertices=65691, convex
>         hull=4296)
>
>                            
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