Hi Bruce-

Agreed.  Visual check of talairach looks good and manual correction of slight
sagital angle fails to improve z value, hence the current notal-check.

Looking at recon-all.log, there is a statement that The surface validation has
detected a possible Error", with a suggestion to use the '-atlas' option if the
final seg is not valid.  Also, it's saying that brainmask.mgz already exists and
that I would need to add -clean-bm to overwrite brainmask.mgz. \n

Is any of that information of use?

Deane


Quoting Bruce Fischl <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>:

> Hi Deanne,
>
> something is badly wrong - that step should only take a couple of minutes.
> Did you check the talairach visually? It may need to be manually corrected.
>
> cheers
> Bruce
> On Fri, 12 Jun 2009, Deane Aikins wrote:
>
> > I'm rerunning it with -no-talcheck.  It looks to be hanging on finding
> control
> > points in the Left_Cerebral_White_matter.  Can this one step take more than
> 24
> > hrs?  The "usual" time for a recon-all was @30 hrs for the other brains.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Deane
> >
> >
> > Quoting Nick Schmansky <ni...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>:
> >
> >> Deane,
> >>
> >> the -no-talcheck flag is your best option now, considering that a manual
> >> alignment is no better than the automatic.
> >>
> >> What is the age range of your subjects?  We're implementing an alternate
> >> target consisting of young adults scanned at 3T, which works better for
> >> that cohort over the adults in the default target we use.
> >>
> >> Nick
> >>
> >> On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 09:43 -0400, Deane Aikins wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> I had a Talairach QA check failure, with the error log indicating a Z =
> -8
> >> which
> >>> was below the criterion of z =-6.
> >>>
> >>> I then used tkregister2 to attempt a manual alignment (no surf orig was
> >>> available).  After visual inspection, the subject and Talairach volumes
> >> looked
> >>> really closely aligned already.  I did some very conservative rotation
> and
> >>> movement in the sagital plane, checked other planes, hit "SAVE REG" and
> >> then
> >>> executed
> >>>
> >>> recon-all -all -subjid MYFILENAMEHERE
> >>>
> >>> in the subj directory.  I then get the same error, with the same z score.
> >> I've
> >>> tried several alignments (very little adjustment each time) with the same
> >>> results.
> >>>
> >>> I notice that when I hit SAVE REG there is a new 4 x 4 numerical matrix
> >> written
> >>> to my xterm screen.  The values look very very similar to those prior.
> >>>
> >>> Is there a way to interpret these values to assist me in my manual
> >> alignment?
> >>> Should I just bag it and use -notal-check?  The majority of my patient
> set
> >> ran
> >>> without errors.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Deane Aikins, PhD
> >>> Director, Cognitive Neuroscience Laboratory
> >>> National Center for PTSD Clinical Neuroscience Division
> >>> Assistant Professor, Department of Psychiatry
> >>> Yale School of Medicine
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