Nick, Could you please help me reconcile your reply to Zhen below with Avis note below about the tal_QC_AZS script?
Below we have pasted a sample of our recon all log. Is the talAviQA in the default log the same as the eta term that Avi describes as output of the tal_QC_AZS script below in his note to Zhen? What does the z refer to in the recon all log? It appears that the default tal check does not generate the atlas_transform_error term, correct? ( I also dont see any term less than 15). Does one need to run Avis tal_QC_AZS script to generate the atlas_transform_error term ? While it looks like tal check not not automatically output the value of the atlas_transform_error term, Is the z score that DOES appear (automatically) in the log file the same z score that Avi mentions below, that compares the atlas_transform_error term to the training set? Thanks! Carl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon Apr 13 15:14:55 CST 2009 talairach_avi done cp transforms/talairach.auto.xfm transforms/talairach.xfm #-------------------------------------------- #...@# Talairach Failure Detection Mon Apr 13 15:14:56 CST 2009 /nfs/h2/r6/subjects/A39/mri talairach_afd -T 0.005 -xfm transforms/talairach.xfm talairach_afd: Talairach Transform: transforms/talairach.xfm OK (p=0.8116, pval=0.8469 >= threshold=0.0050) awk -f /nfs/h1/r1/jliu/new_soft_test/freesurfer/bin/extract_talairach_avi_QA.awk /nfs/h2/r6/subjects/A39/mri/transforms/talairach_avi.log TalAviQA: 0.97187 z-score: -1 #------------------------------------------- On 4/22/09 4:04 PM, "Nick Schmansky" <ni...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote: Zhen, The -tal-check flag included with recon-all will perform the QA check that Avi mentions, with the addition of creating a z-score comparing the subject's QA score to a set of QA scores of known-good talairach alignments. The -tal-check flag runs by default in recon-all (in -all and -autorecon1), and will error exit if the alignment is below threshold. Nick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 2009-04-21 at 19:02 +0800, Zhen Zonglei wrote: > Dear Avi: > > Thanks for your kind and the script.I will use it to check tal QC of > all my data . > > Zognlei > > > 2009/4/21 Avi Snyder <a...@npg.wustl.edu> > Zonglei, > > 1. Re: how to detemine Talairach transform success from the > logfile: > Attached is a simple csh script (tal_QC_AZS) and a required > awk script. > tal_QC_AZS reads the log file and writes out two numbers. > The first number (eta) is the spatial correlation between the > (blurred) input > image and the atlas representative target image. eta values > less than 0.96 are highly > suspect. The second number ("atlas_transform_error") is > computed on the basis of > registration objective function curvature in parameter space. > The 12 present numbers > are compared to values derived from a training set. > atlas_transform_error values > less than ~15 are good. > > > Avi > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 12:52:45 +0800 > >Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] t4_read error (fwd) > >From: Zhen Zonglei <zonglei....@gmail.com> > >To: Avi Snyder <a...@npg.wustl.edu> > > >Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu, > fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu, ni...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > > > > Hi avi: > > > >Thanks for your help. Still have two questions. > > > >1) How to determine whether the Talairach transform is > reasonable > >based on recon-all.log? _______________________________________________ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer