Derin,

Can you do this:

  source $FREESURFER_HOME/bin/tcl_setup

then send me the output of:

  ldd `which tkmedit.bin`

and

  ldd `which tksurfer.bin`

I will be looking to see if the proper tcl/tk/tix/blt libs are being
used (those in freesurfer/lib/tcltktixblt).

Nick


On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 11:15 -0500, Derin Cobia wrote:
> Nick,
> 
> Yes, our tcltktixblt directory was intact and set correctly.  The reason I
> thought it was a BLT lib was it came up missing when I ran fs_lib check. 
> At any rate, the DefaultDepth is already at 24 in our xorg.conf file and
> the problem persists.  Any other thoughts what might be occurring?  Would
> you like me to submit my output as well?
> 
> Also, any thoughts from anyone with regard to question #2 (see below)? 
> Thanks.
> 
> -Derin
> 
> 
> On Oct 8, 2008, at 5:12 PM, Nick Schmansky wrote:
> 
> Derin,
> 
> To answer your first question, the solution to that particular problem
> that you reference was not to install the BLT libs (as they are included
> with freesurfer in the $FREESURFER_HOME/lib/tcltktixblt directory and
> found by setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH in the tksurfer script), but rather by
> changing the 'DefaultDepth' from 16 to 24 in the 'Screen' Section in the
> file /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.
> 
> Nick
> 
> Two questions:
> 
> 1.  We installed the latest version of 32-bit FS on several workstations
> running CentOS 5.1 in our lab.  However, once we ran the CentOS updates
> (~280 of them through up2date), tkmedit now fails to open and tksurfer
> exhibits behavior exactly as described in this message from the mail
> archive:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg07570.html
> Having attempted to troubleshoot it I discovered that a blt lib was
> missing, but even with re-installation of this tksurfer continues to not
> display correctly.  I believe it's a tcl problem, but I don't understand
> why performing incremental updates to CentOS would break FS.  More
> importantly, I'm not sure which of the updates does "the breaking" so I
> can just avoid it.  Any ideas?
> 
> 2.  We are in the process of training new research assistants in how to
> use FS.  Typically we have approached this in a more qualitative way by
> working side-by-side with them to guide their edits and processing.  I was
> wondering if there is a quantitative way of comparing their work that you
> (or others) have used when training "new recruits" in FS.  Maybe something
> like was done in the Han et al (2006) paper, such as compare their
> thickness (or other) maps with someone we know does well with manual
> interventions?  In essence, we're trying to think of a rigorous way to
> train new people in FS, thanks!
> 
> -Derin
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