Hi Doug, 
 
I tried lowering delta to really low values, eg., .001, but it doesn't seem 
change things much. Under ideal circumstances, would I expect the space between 
the white and pial surfaces to be completely filled?
 
Also, I noted the -help states that delta is relative to the thickness at each 
vertex if -frac is used, but am a bit unsure of what this means. Does it mean 
that, for eg., if the vertex thickness is 3mm, then start = 0, stop = 1, delta 
= 0.5 will fill the entire 3mm space in increments of 1.5mm? Whereas if -abs is 
specified, start = 0, stop = 1, delta = 0.5 means that the space between 0 and 
1mm from the specified surface will be filled, in increments of 0.5mm?
Hope this makes sense and thanks again for your help,
Alex
 
Alex Fornito
M.Psych/PhD (clin. neuro.) candidate
Melbourne Neuropsychiatry Centre and Department of Psychology
The University of Melbourne
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From: Doug Greve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 6/12/2005 6:10 AM
To: Fornito, Alexander
Cc: Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] mri_label2vol



>From --help on mri_label2vol:

--proj type start stop delta

Project the label along the surface normal. type can be abs or frac. 
abs means that the start, stop, and delta are measured in mm. frac
means that start, stop, and delta are relative to the thickness at
each vertex. The label definition is changed to fill in label
points in increments of delta from start to stop. Requires subject
and hemi in order to load in a surface and thickness. Uses the
white surface. The label MUST have been defined on the surface.


Not sure why it's splotchy. Can you lower the delta?

doug

Fornito, Alexander wrote: 

        I see. The ribbon actually looks like the result I got when i used 
mri_label2vol. So would I be correct in saying that a 
        that using the flag -proj frac 0, 1, .1 will extract that protion of 
?h.ribbon.mgz that is associated with the label?
        What exactly does delta (eg., .1) correspond to?
        How come the ribbon.mgz appears 'splotchy' (ie., the space between the 
white and pial surfaces is not completely filled.) 
        Thanks,
        Alex
        
        
        
        Alex Fornito
        M.Psych/PhD (clin. neuro.) candidate
        Melbourne Neuropsychiatry Centre and Department of Psychology
        The University of Melbourne
        [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        
        
        
        -----Original Message-----
        From: Doug Greve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        Sent: Sat 3/12/2005 9:43 AM
        To: Fornito, Alexander
        Cc: Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
        Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] mri_label2vol
         
        
        This is done in the newer versions of recon all. It creates
        subject/mri/?h.ribbon.mgz using mri_surf2vol. Here's what recon-all 
does:
        
             set cmd = (mri_surf2vol --mkmask --hemi $hemi)
             set cmd = ($cmd --fillribbon --template orig$MGZ)
             set cmd = ($cmd --volregidentity $subjid --outvol $hemi.ribbon.mgz)
        
        doug
        
        
        On Sat, 3 Dec 2005, Fornito, Alexander wrote:
        
          

                Hi,
                I'm wandering if its possible to convert a label into a volume 
so that it fills the space between the white and pial surfaces used in 
calculating thickness. That is, if the label is drawn on the wm surface, is is 
possible to determine what points on the pial surface are used to calculate the 
thickness of that label?
                I've been playing with the --proj option in mr_label2vol. The 
--help states that --proj frac
                "means that start, stop, and delta are relative to the 
thickness at
                each vertex."
                I tried using the start, stop and delta values provided in the 
example (0, 1 .1), but it doesn't seem to completely fill  the area between the 
two surfaces. I've also tried plugging in other values and can't seem to get it 
right.Is there soemthing I'm missing?
                Thanks,
                Alex
                
                
                Alex Fornito
                M.Psych/PhD (clin. neuro.) candidate
                Melbourne Neuropsychiatry Centre and Department of Psychology
                The University of Melbourne
                [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                
                
                
                
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