Wouldn't that occur by using the MNI tools anyway?

        -----Original Message----- 
        From: Bruce Fischl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
        Sent: Wed 5/18/2005 9:39 PM 
        To: Fornito, Alexander 
        Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
        Subject: RE: [Freesurfer] WMFilll and talairach coordinates
        
        
        just that you have sacrificed resolution.
        
        On Wed, 18 May 2005, Fornito,
        Alexander wrote:
        
        > Other than that though, should there be any problem if I align my 
images prior to starting with freesurfer?
        > Provided I align to the MNI 152 brain, it should still be in 
talaraich space...
        >
        >       -----Original Message-----
        >       From: Bruce Fischl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        >       Sent: Wed 5/18/2005 10:55 AM
        >       To: Fornito, Alexander
        >       Cc: peggy christidis; freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
        >       Subject: RE: [Freesurfer] WMFilll and talairach coordinates
        >
        >
        >
        >       1. to report talairach coords.
        >       2. To get cutting planes to separate the hemispheres when the 
head is at an
        >       angle.
        >       3. To find the callosum if other heuristics fail.
        >       4. To pick some control points in the white matter for intensity
        >       normalization.
        >
        >       cheers,
        >       Bruce
        >
        >
        >       On Wed, 18 May 2005, Fornito, Alexander
        >       wrote:
        >
        >       > Hi,
        >       > Just to toss my hat into the ring, can I ask why the 
transform is kept. Is it used later on?
        >       > I've also been having trouble with the MNI tools, and was 
thinking of using FLIRT or AIR to align the images first. What is th point of 
having the .xfm?
        >       > Thanks,
        >       > Alex
        >       >
        >       >       -----Original Message-----
        >       >       From: Bruce Fischl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        >       >       Sent: Wed 5/18/2005 6:00 AM
        >       >       To: peggy christidis
        >       >       Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
        >       >       Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] WMFilll and talairach 
coordinates
        >       >
        >       >
        >       >
        >       >       Hi Peggy,
        >       >
        >       >       we don't apply the transform, just keep it around, so 
blurring isn't a
        >       >       problem. I don't know if AFNI knows how to write out 
.xfm files (the mni
        >       >       transform format), but that would be the best solution.
        >       >
        >       >
        >       >       Bruce
        >       >
        >       >       On Tue, 17 May 2005,
        >       >       peggy christidis wrote:
        >       >
        >       >       > Hello,
        >       >       >
        >       >       > I'm having a bit of trouble with the "Create Surface" 
step in FreeSurfer.  I
        >       >       > have a single mprage scan that creates a decent first 
pass surface, but
        >       >       > there's still some brainstem and cerebellum attached 
to it.  I followed the
        >       >       > troubleshooting guidelines in the FreeSurfer manual 
regarding Failure of
        >       >       > Automatic Cutting Planes.  I went to Expert 
Preferences --> WMFill, and
        >       >       > inputed the appropriate coordinates to separate the 
brainstem and cerebellum.
        >       >       > The coordinates I used were not in Talairach space, 
but I assumed this was
        >       >       > okay because the manual says to use original 
coordinates if you don't have
        >       >       > Talairach coordinates.  However, when I re-ran 
"Create Surface", nothing
        >       >       > happened (i.e., filled volume and surface both still 
show the
        >       >       > pons/cerebellum/brainstem attached).  I read through 
the FreeSurfer mailing
        >       >       > list archives and read that Talairach coordinates are 
indeed needed.
        >       >       >
        >       >       > Here's my question:  The volume I'm using shows a 
head that's slightly tilted
        >       >       > about 10 degrees to the left, so I should probably do 
the Taliarach
        >       >       > transformation anyway.  However, I don't have the 
mni_tools installed on my
        >       >       > computer (I had major installation problems with 
them).  Anyway, could I do a
        >       >       > taliarach transformation outside of Freesurfer (like 
in AFNI) and then
        >       >       > tranfer that talairached volume to FreeSurfer?  My 
concern is that the
        >       >       > transformation will blur the volume, making 
segmentation difficult.  What
        >       >       > should I do?
        >       >       >
        >       >       > Thanks,
        >       >       > Peggy
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