Il 20.01.2021 16:05 Frantisek Rysanek ha scritto: 

> On 20 Jan
2021 at 0:42, andrea...@tiscali.it [1]wrote:
> 
>> Now I am trying to
load a diver for a toshiba satellite with Marvell Yukon eth.card: I
found the driver (yukodi driver) and it would seem to work, and system
says it loaded odi packet driver and so on, but neither Arachne no Link
go up on internet. I have a wattcp.cfg (My_ip = dhcp), as usual, but
they fail.
> 
> ...oh wait. Let's speak ugly details.
> 
> fetpkt is
likely a native packet driver with CRYNWR API.
> That's what many DOS
TCP/IP networking apps are using.
> (Pretty much anything outside Novell
and Microsoft.)
> 
> b44.odi is a Novell ODI driver = does not provide
the CRYNWR API 
> itself. But if you say that you're using b44.odi, you
probably also 
> have the odipkt.com.
> 
> Now you say that the driver
Yukodi does not work for you.
> Looks like another ODI driver.
> Hmm...
if Arachne and others look all happy,
> does that mean that odipkt.com
is loaded as well?
> Also, AFAICT the Yukon NIC is a PCI device, so you
should not be 
> required to tell the driver about any particular
hardware resources 
> such as base IO address and IRQ (and possibly get
them wrong).
> 
> At my workplace, I've been using the Microsoft Network
client for DOS 
> for ages, even on relatively modern hardware. And for
most networking 
> cards, the vendors have kept providing updated
drivers for the 
> Microsoft stack = those with the .DOS suffix.
> And,
I can see traces of information that there used to be a shim 
> driver
called the dis_pkt.dos , to provide the CRYNWR packet driver 
>
interface on top of a Microsoft-style networking driver stack.
>
Analogous to your odipkt.com which is Novell-flavoured.
> Unfortunately
I cannot provide you with a complete boilerplate script 
> and config
file for the whole microsoft stack. I've had experience 
> with the
"Hiren's boot CD" software package where the loading of the 
> .DOS
drivers is kind of automated...
> 
> Other than that, this is DOS...
same old, same old.
> No memory protection, drivers must load resident
in a couple 
> kilobytes under 1 MB... namely the network drivers
typically work but 
> sometimes don't... You may get different results
based on what DOS 
> version you use, what EMS/XMS manager and its
options, what CPU you 
> are running on, and possibly what phase of the
moon it is...
> I have recent unhappy experiences with DOS networking
and other stuff 
> (general application compatibility) in virtual
environments (QEMU).
> This is computer archaeology. Trying to make your
super-ancient OS
> run on modern PC hardware. It's a miracle that it
manages to boot at 
> all. I'm not surprised that no serious effort is
wasted on trying to 
> create modern apps for this programming
environment, such as a modern 
> web browser - from a programmer's
perspective this is a ridiculous 
> proposal.
> 
> Frank
> 
> Thank you
Frank!
> 
> very helpful! I'm experimenting with various possibilities
in the package that comes with Freedos cd; dos is also a hobby and a
good mental exercise
> Andrea
  


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