On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 6:27 AM Tom Ehlert <t...@drivesnapshot.de> wrote: > > Not sure how to fold in the "16bit v 32bit" section or the "UEFI" > > section, but I may add a section at the bottom of "Releases" that > > talks about this (probably "Features" or "Assumptions") just to have > > everything in one page. > > "16bit v 32bit": > > I took the time to look into what the night dos kernel group has > achieved so far in the 3+ years that it exists. > > simple conclusion: this not going to be a DOS kernel. ever. [..] > this project is not going to succeed, at least not with these people, > and not in our lifetime. > > my vote: remove from road map.
For context, this is the NightDOS note in "16-bit or 32-bit": "Also: The NightDOS Kernel project aims to create a new 32-bit drop-in replacement for the FreeDOS Kernel. This will not be ready for several years, so is not a candidate for FreeDOS 1.3." <http://wiki.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/Releases/1.3#16-bit_or_32-bit.3F> It's not technically on the road map anyway. I added the note about it because a few folks emailed me and asked if we planned to include NightDOS in FreeDOS 1.3. (I don't think these people were aware of NightDOS's status.) I wanted to get a note out there that NightDOS is not ready, and will not be ready for several years. I'll add a note to the FreeDOS Road Map page that describes that NightDOS is not actually on the Road Map until NightDOS demonstrates stability and the ability to run 16-bit programs. <http://wiki.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/FreeDOS_Road_Map> > "UEFI": > > your argument is wrong. > a BIOS emulator on top of UEFI is possible. this would load the > FreeDOS boot sector, everything else as normal. There's a note to that effect on the "Contribute" page: "If you're a highly skilled DOS developer: Add some kind of UEFI bootstrap BIOS emulator, perhaps implemented as an IPL" <http://www.freedos.org/contribute/> > practically people able to fulfill such (very advanced) stunt are > usually not motivated to spend a year of their life on obsolete stuff. > insofar > > my vote: "not going to happen unless a white knight in shiny armor > shows up. don't hold your breath." Yes, this one is tough. It's possible, but tough. But I'm not sure how many people actually run FreeDOS on bare metal on new PCs. Some do, but most do not. From the emails I've received and forum posts I've read, most people run FreeDOS in a virtual machine. (And a certain percentage run FreeDOS on bare metal on classic/legacy hardware like '486s and Pentiums.) The nice thing about virtual machines or PC emulators is the VM provides the BIOS. So the UEFI problem is not really a practical issue for how most people run FreeDOS. Jim _______________________________________________ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
