For the wish list has the AHCI/SATA issue been mentioned? I have an Acer
which will not access CDROM using GCDROM or any thing else in the FreeDOS
repo, but works only with the intel SATA driver first followed by UIDE.
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 5:45 AM, Don Flowers <donr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The wiki article is good as far as it goes, I collected all the pieces of
> the networking puzzle mentioned in the article, but can't seem to assemble
> them correctly. My currebn method of file transfer is via USB, and I am
> experiencing quite a bit of data corruption.
>
> I have 3 desktops (one full time FreeDOS) and one other connection
> available for my laptop PCMCIA. All machines are connected and setup
> individually, but I am lost on the final client/host configuration.
>
> On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 5:28 AM, Mateusz Viste <mate...@viste.fr> wrote:
>
>> About networking -- have you looked at the wiki article?
>>
>> http://www.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/Networking_FreeDOS
>>
>> It contains already quite a lot of informations, on many aspects of the
>> DOS networking world.
>>
>> Mateusz
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 18/05/2015 10:52, Don Flowers wrote:
>> > I have a HP Elite 8000 with 12gb RAM, I use XOSL to boot Kubuntu 14.04,
>> > Windows 7, Compaq DOS 5.0, MS-DOS 7.10 and FreeDOS. When running Compaq
>> > DOS and/or MS-DOS 7.10, I use the native HIMEM and Windows 3.1 runs fine
>> > in enhanced mode; on FreeDOS even standard mode seems buggy, so it is
>> > not necessarily a RAM issue but seems to be (IMHO) some kind of kernel
>> > incompatibility.
>> >
>> > As for Wi-Fi, I got it to work on a Compaq Armada 1750 using a Proxim
>> > (Orinoco Gold 802.11b PCMCIA card (using WPA), but when we switched to
>> > Xfinity service the WPA setup was not compatible with our other wireless
>> > devices.
>> >
>> > I personally would like to see an updated step-by-step how to on a wired
>> > home network setup for FreeDOS.
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 4:25 AM, Rugxulo <rugx...@gmail.com
>> > <mailto:rugx...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 2:16 AM, Guillem <guilevi2...@gmail.com
>> > <mailto:guilevi2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I've been thinking of dualbooting my Windows PC with FreeDOS,
>> >
>> > Why exactly? Although it's not a totally horrible idea, it's very
>> > tedious and a bit technical. Not worth risking anything important.
>> As
>> > I told one guy recently, make sure you backup all important files
>> > first, and even then, only if you have all your Windows DVD recovery
>> > discs (and product key) nearby.
>> >
>> > What Windows do you run? WinXP? Win7? With the former, do you run it
>> > atop pre-existing FAT or (incompatible) NTFS? I'm not even sure you
>> > can (properly) resize NTFS at all before Vista (without Linux
>> GParted
>> > or whatever). Also, Vista on up upgraded the boot loader, so it's
>> more
>> > complicated to adjust, hence probably needing third-party EasyBCD.
>> >
>> > Native is fun, fast, (sometimes) less buggy, and runs DOS as
>> > originally designed. But these days we also have great alternatives
>> > like DOSEMU or VirtualBox or QEMU. These emulations are much easier
>> to
>> > use and less error-prone, albeit no one solution is 100% perfect
>> (not
>> > even native). If your cpu supports VT-X, you'll probably benefit
>> > greatly from using that (e.g. VBox or KVM or similar) instead of raw
>> > booting, esp. for better accuracy and speed.
>> >
>> > The simplest solution (if your PC can boot from USB) is to use RUFUS
>> > to make a bootable jump drive. Heck, you could also use various
>> tools
>> > to make a bootable Linux (presumably with DOSEMU). Even if you're
>> > using an old Pentium 4 (like my old one), you can still boot USB via
>> > PLoP Boot Manager via floppy (or CD or HD).
>> >
>> > > and the only things that are preventing me from doing that right
>> now are the fact that USB serial controllers don't work all the way
>> >
>> > At best, you're probably just going to have the BIOS detect a USB
>> jump
>> > drive as a fixed disk that can't be unplugged/removed (without
>> > rebooting). Bret Johnson did write some nice UHCI-only drivers, but
>> a
>> > lot of machines don't support that, unfortunately.
>> >
>> > > and also that there's apparently no way to use applications that
>> require a sound blaster reliably. Is there any way to make some kind of
>> driver
>> > > that would sit between the application and the actual soundcard
>> (in my case a realtek) and forward what the app is trying to send to the
>> > > soundblaster to the realtek the right way?
>> >
>> > Although it's not native and isn't even a real DOS (no actual
>> FreeDOS
>> > being used), the (portable, SDL-based) DOSBox emulator supports a
>> lot
>> > of graphics and soundcards, mostly for old commercial games. But
>> > you'll need a different host OS for it. (Linux? FreeBSD? Kolibri?)
>> > Believe it or not, this is better than even XP's NTVDM for many (but
>> > not all) games.
>> >
>> > > I'm talking from a user's point of view here. I have never tried
>> developing anything for DOS so I really don't know about the limitations.
>> >
>> > In native DOS? Not sure, not many have tried. Most of us aren't
>> savvy
>> > enough to do something so extremely technical. I mean, one guy did
>> > port SoftMPU (MPU-401 TSR emulator) to DOS, but even that is loosely
>> > based upon DOSBox! :-)
>> >
>> > Like mentioned, there really needed to be a universal API for that
>> > (and some did exist), but it was never popular enough for many to
>> care
>> > hard enough to utilize or fix it. So we have some libs, but nothing
>> > universally useful. Also, lots of old games are hard to find, but
>> they
>> > sometimes do support multiple outputs, even PC speaker. Although
>> even
>> > that isn't always physically available, but it's often better than
>> > nothing!
>> >
>> > > Also would FreeDOS actually run on a PC with 8gb of RAM? That's
>> what this one has, but after the previous message in this topic I'm not so
>> sure.
>> >
>> > I run it just fine on my 6 GB Lenovo desktop. Of course, due to
>> memory
>> > holes, I "only" get (roughly) 2.9 GB free, but even that is "too
>> much"
>> > for some rare software (chokes, dies). But most well-behaved apps
>> > (e.g. DJGPP) either work by default or can be massaged.
>> >
>> > Not sure how well it will work if you're running UEFI (CSM?).
>> >
>> > > I guess I would also have to figure out networking. I have no way
>> of using Ethernet because of how this house is set up.
>> > > I can either use Wifi or use my phone with USB tethering, which
>> is what I normally do because that PC's network card doesn't work all the
>> way.
>> >
>> > This alone is probably the biggest advantage of emulators (e.g. VBox
>> > or QEMU, both of which I've used lately): easy to setup networking.
>> > You know by default that it will work, unlike native, where you
>> can't
>> > be sure of anything!
>> >
>> > Granted, you mentioned Windows, but it's exactly Windows that
>> doesn't
>> > support DOS well anymore (if at all). So while it seems crazy to
>> use a
>> > software-only x86 emulator atop Windows on x86, sometimes it really
>> is
>> > better than nothing.
>> >
>> > In short: it depends on what you're trying to do, and whether you
>> can
>> > debug your own problems.
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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