On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 10:54 PM, dmccunney <dennis.mccun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Alex <alxm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sorry but I still don't find the above comments very reassuring, with
>> regard to the future usability of (Free)DOS on new hardware. The fact
>> that we will be able to run DOS in emulators/virtual machines, because
>> we can no longer boot it, is no reason at all for being reassured. In
>> fact, such a state of affairs is rather sad and paradoxical, and in
>> such a scenario I don't even see the point of using DOS in the first
>> place (apart from running DOS games).
>
> What *do* you see the point of using DOS in the first place being?
>
> If your answer is
>
>> To me, at least, DOS is
>> something that today is still useful because it gives you control over
>> the machine, it is lean and unbloated, and provides you with a simple,
>> uncluttered environment.
>
> the question becomes "Why do you *need* to do this?"
>
> The answer is that generally, you *don't*.  Current hardware is
> increasingly faster and more powerful.  In the old days you talked
> directly to the hardware to squeeze the maximum performance out of
> slow and limited hardware.  There's no *reason* to address the
> hardware directly now simply to get performance: you can talk to it
> through drivers using OS calls.  The hardware is more than fast
> enough.
>
> "Lean and unbloated" is relative.  One man's bloat is another's
> necessary functionality.  And the faster and more powerful your
> hardware becomes, the less you *care* about "bloat".
>
> The only people who still have that sort of concerns are working in
> the embedded space where they still *have* slow and limited hardware,
> and are dealing with things like 8-bit microcontrollers, or dealing
> with things like set top boxes or wireless routers, where the CPU is
> not Intel and the limits are imposed by what you can do in the
> available flash RAM.  They *aren't* using DOS, because DOS doesn't run
> on ARM or MIPS architectures.
>
>> Now, if we have to resort to using a virtual machine for running DOS, this
>> frankly seems to defeat the purpose.
>
> *That* purpose has been unnecessary for decades.  Running in a VM or
> emulator still lets you *run* DOS and legacy DOS apps, which is all
> you are likely to really *need* to do.

I beg to disagree. For me, at least, DOS is about the OS, not about
the applications. Those matter too, but the system is my main
interest, for the reasons that I outlined above.
If you don't mind my asking, what is your interest in DOS then? Just
for running old apps?

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