Em 18-10-2011 22:34, Rugxulo escreveu:
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Alain Mouette<ala...@pobox.com>  wrote:
>> Em 18-10-2011 20:33, Rugxulo escreveu:
>>>
>>> BTW, call me naive, but does that above line even give you any UMB
>>> space?? If not (and NOEMS), why use EMM386 at all?? (Just use XMS.)
>>> :-/
>>
>> Other things did not work anly with XMS, among other things emm386 puts
>> the machine in protected mode, this helped something...
>
> Eh? That would be weird. Hmmm, now that I think about it, I think
> CWSDPMI (and/or other DPMI hosts) can't handle fragmented XMS (or hog
> it all for themselves), so shelled out apps don't have anything to
> use. Perhaps you're relying on that? In that case, yes, the 4 kb pages
> help, oddly enough. Otherwise it's not so recommended (esp. since EMS
> isn't as widely used in most "modern" DOS apps), as you probably
> already know, esp. regarding DPMI 1.0 extensions and CWSDPMI r7.
>
>> And es, you are right, it gave me no UMB, which in that situation is
>> just a minor annoyance. My program is 32 bits so it does not need much
>> lower memory.
>
> DJGPP, perhaps? If OpenWatcom, you could (should) try a different
> extender (DOS/32A or Causeway).

I use OpenWatcom, with Causeway. I tried WDOSX and DOS4G but they were 
not as relyable as Causeway.

> I guess UMBPCI is out of the question??

Completly, it is hardware dependant and does not behave well on unknown 
hardware.

>> I tried but could not find a range to exclude that worked and would
>> leave me some UMB :(
> I find that hard to believe.

Basicaly due to lack of time. It was kind of a emergency rescue...

> But luckily FreeDOS is pretty efficient
> anyways (at least with XMS available).

:)

Alain

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