On Tue, 15 Feb 2011, Warren Block wrote:

There are people who have difficulty with hal, and a much larger number who dislike it. I'd contend that problems with hal are not very widespread, or there would be a call for the Handbook X11 configuration section to change.

Just to add something I should have mentioned in the first message:

One reason for problems with hal is the use of AllowEmptyInput "Off". Usually it causes the "sticky mouse pointer" problem, but not always. So many people were using AEI that I decided to write an article about it: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html

The short version of that: don't use AEI at all. If you want to disable hal device detection in xorg, use AutoAddDevices Off, or build xorg-server without hal support.

If anyone has the lockup-on-x-exit problem and is using AEI Off, please change it to AutoAddDevices Off and see if it makes a difference. It may also be due to window manager/desktop environment, or 32- or 64-bit OS. Mine have mostly been xfce4 on 32-bit 8-stable, which may be why I haven't seen it.
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