On Tue, 15 Feb 2011, Chris H wrote:

On Mon, February 14, 2011 2:35 pm, Warren Block wrote:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2011, Chris H wrote:

OH, one other thing that comes to mind;
Did you let Xorg(1) create your xorg.conf(8) file? and if so (you /should/
have), what was the output? Again, if so, is that the conf file you're using
now?

Sorry, must disagree with that.  -configure creates outmoded xorg.conf
files, with older options that are either no longer needed or outright obsolete.
It also leaves out useful settings.
So basically, Your saying it's all a "crap shoot", a "roll of the dice".
The rule is; there is no rule. RTFM does not apply here.

No, I did not say or mean to imply any of that. To be specific, I would like to see the -configure option rewritten to only generate an entry for a 24-bit depth, and to not include all the modules it loads by default anyway. That is generally useless stuff that obscures the more important entries.

I was only speaking from my own experiences with this same problem.
I own, and operate 30 FreeBSD boxes here. They range from 7.x-8.x, with the
exception of 1 6.x. This problem began at RELENG_7 for me. I wrestled with
it for quite some time - much of it on this mailing list. The only consistent
thing I could find, was that DISabling hald(8) eliminated most of the issues
I ran into. I discovered this was the same for many others, while reading
about others with similar problems on the nVidia/ATI news forums. In fact
the same consensus was had on the freebsd forums as well.

There are people who have difficulty with hal, and a much larger number who dislike it. I'd contend that problems with hal are not very widespread, or there would be a call for the Handbook X11 configuration section to change.

As far as the Xorg(1) -configure goes. It's interesting that when I choose nvidia-xconfig to create the xorg.conf(5) file, with the exception of the additional nVidia specific options added, the rest looks nearly identical to those produced by Xorg(1) -configure.

They probably followed the original as an example.
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