Ted

It would be nice if you could at least get your "facts" straight

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On Nov 15, 2005, at 6:15 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:



On Nov 14, 2005, at 9:23 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

A lot of people wondered how Steve Jobs could dare change over to
Intel
chips.
In Steve Jobs keynote speech announcing the big move Intel chips was
just about entirely stated as because of the 'performance per watt
ratio' of Intel CPUs. Check out the picture of the key note speech
and
look at the bottom of the picture with Intel and IBM's PowerPC
processor.
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/tradeshows/2005/WWDC/
perfperwatt.jpg


This is a bunch of whitewashing as anyone in the tech industry knows.

Wrong.  WHat jobs said was exactly correct

Jobs changed over to Intel for two reasons. First, because Intel gave
him a better price on the CPU's.

This is also a consideration.  Price always is/

However, the main reason was that the performance they needed at the
wattage they needed (for laptops) was not on the horizon for PPC.
The G5 can compete against the Intel desktop offerings but there was
not a laptop G5 coming any time soon [because of energy dissipation)
and the G4 for laptops was not cutting it.


Rubbish.  They could simply use Intel for laptops until IBM got it
together.
Or signed a letter of intent which would prod IBM.  There is nothing
inherent
in the design of the G5 that makes it so that you cannot make low power
and low heat versions of it.

Ted. Apple did play some games to try and prod IBM. And your assertion that they could use Intel for laptops until IBM got its act together is hysterical. Glad you aren't running Apple or any other real company. You want them to commit to a much more expensive 2- architecture strategy indefinitely? That makes a lot of sense. IBM was not interested in making a G5 caliber chip made for laptops. There was nothing in their roadmap and nothing technology wise they were showing. Intel has some nice laptop chipsets and cpus. It is difficult and expensive as is to do a multi year transition and keep support of PPC machines for the sveeral years that they will be doing so after the transition.

It probably was technically feasible to come up with a G5 caliber laptop chip but IBM was not interested for someone as "low volume" as Apple. They are much more interested in XBox 360 , Playstation 3 and Nintendo evolution.


Other computer manufacturers have no problems using different CPU's in
their products.

Name one major manufacturer in the same market as Apple that has an indefinite long term strategy of multiple CPUs. I can only think of Big Iron like Sun and IBM.


Second because doing this instantly
obsoletes the older power PC macs thus pushing all the Mac users to
fork over money for new software and hardware.

Wrong.  Conspiracy-Ted at it again.


But of course you have no answer to the software obsolescence issue.

There is no software obsolescence issue. Besides making it quite easy to port software to OS X Intel for most people, since the underlying OS and libraries is the same, Apple has invested a ton of money into the Rosetta technology which allows PPC software to continue to run on the Intel boxes. And they are also still introducing PPC machines for a while and will continue to support PPC machines for several years so as to avoid the problem.


Once again typical Apple apologizing.  When Apple dumped MacOS Classic
in favor of MacOS X, all the Apple proponents who for years were saying that MacOS was the best OS in existence, didn't let the door hit them on
the
ass on the way out of the mac Classic room.

????? classic MacOS (OS 9) was good for the market it was competing in but could not last forever. Apple has the Classic compatibility in OS X and for a few years after OS X was introduced continued to introduce new machines that support OS 9 natively. I can still run lots of my System 7 apps on my G5 under Classic today... no software obsolescence and nothing to worry about hitting me in the ass.

When Apple dumped Motorola
in favor of IBM all the Apple people who for years had been claiming that Apples were so much better because they held their value over the years while PC's didn't, conveniently forgot that now the resale value of the
68k
Mac was zero.

Dude, you have no idea what you were talking about. The PPC Mac was introduced in late 93 and 68K based Macs still had value (including resale) for a long while (I know as I sold one then). Your good on making crap up but bad on facts and history.


What I think is the biggest joke is that you Apple guys worship the
ground
that Jobs walks on like he's Apple's Savior, Jobs can do no wrong is the
mantra.

Jobs can do wrong. But he has been a lot more successful than you or most any other industry executive over the last 7 years. I give the guy a break most of the time since he has a track record.

Yet to the non Apple-colored-eyglasses computer industry, the
guy
is just as money-grubbing profit-grubbing as any other.

Actually not. I don't like the guy personally, but I respect where he has taken Apple and the way he has given Apple new life. Just FYI -- He had a $1 salary at Apple for a long while. He did take some stock grants and options after turning the company around. You like to spew for venom and to you everything is a conspiracy or everyone but Ted is a zealot.

This is a guy
that didn't
even know that FreeBSD was one of the bases of MacOSX and was telling
people it was built on -LINUX- for crying out loud.

???????????????  Who are you talking about?

Btw. FreeBSD is NOT one of the "bases" for Mac OS X. Mac OS X did inherit the FreeBSD userland and add in a BSD kernel compatibility layer compatible with FreeBSD. But Mac OS X is based on OpenStep which was a mach based BSD personality (pre FreeBSD) OS.


Jobs switched CPU's to get a whole lot of you guys to dump you "holds its resale value" hardware in the ashbin, and run out and give a lot of money
to
Apple for the latest and greatest Intel gear, as well as help out all the
software
ISV's writing software for MacOS X by giving them a reason to prod all of
you
into buying software upgrades. And you can't get enough of it! Simply
amazing!
Apple is working exactly like Microsoft these days yet you all think it's
still better!

Ted the conspiracy man. Spewing forth his BS. Ted. You don't have a clue of what you are talking about.


I guess one of these days when General Motors finally gets stick of
propping up
Saturn (Saturn has never turned a profit since it was founded) all the
Saturn
owners who think they are 'different kinna car people' will be saying
that
Chevrolet is a 'different kinna car'   Cast from the same mold you all
are.


Ted

Ted, reading your stuff would be humorous if it wasn't so sad. You are pretty smart guy in technical matters. Too bad you are such an ass otherwise.

Every person who wants FreeBSD to adopt a real logo is a right wing Christian wacko.

Every person who uses OS X is an Apple Zealot who worships the ground Jobs walks on.

That is the world according to Ted Mittelstaedt.

Stick to answering technical posts Ted. You are good at that. Lay of the conspiracy crap that your fevered mind makes up.

Chad


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