On 02/12/16 09:42, Matthew Seaman wrote:
On 12/02/2016 14:56, Jim Ohlstein wrote:
This is a good point. I still don't understand why pkg(8) is not in the
base (though I imagine there's a reason and it takes less than a minute
to install). There can't be many users who install a base system and use
it without a single additional piece of software. However, for my $0.02,
that is the only change I'd make to base at this point with respect to
package management, aside from my pkg(8) wishlist. As an aside, and
fwiw, unless there is a non-GPL'd Ada compiler out there, we won't see
Ada or any Ada-based binaries in base, even if Synth turns out to be the
best thing since sliced bread.
The primary reason pkg(8) is not in base is to decouple it from the
FreeBSD release timescale. Given the promises about API/ABI stability
over a major release branch, development of pkg(8) would be forced to
slow to a crawl.
pkg(8) still has a lot of changes yet to be realized, both in its own
code, and in the code of both the ports and the base system, and in
adjunct software like poudriere or indeed, synth, so it is likely to
remain a 'port' for some time to come. It is not completely
inconceivable though that at some future point, pkg(8) will have matured
into stability and require little further development, in which case,
importing it to base would be a natural next move.
Cheers,
Matthew
There was a thread a month or 2 back that mentioned adopting the pkg
'package format' for binary base packages. This would at least unify
base & userland binaries under 1 package management system (& I *love*
freebsd-update, BTW, *NO* aspersions being cast here). As I understand
things, there would be separate repo's for base (obviously) & userland,
but 1 unified format/package-manager. For those wanting to compile
either base or userland themselves, they still could, since pkg is
reasonably 'port' aware (& hopefuly could be made /usr/src aware as
well), & they could use whatever src-base/port management tools they
wanted. I definitely agree that a well integrated ability to possibly
mix locally compiled stuff w/ repo-binaries is quite desirable in many
scenarios & a nice advantage for FreeBSD. $0.02 from the (*very*) cheap
seats, no more, no less ....
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