--- On Fri, 11/9/12, Chris Rees <utis...@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Chris Rees <utis...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: pkgng woes > To: "Beeblebrox" <zap...@berentweb.com> > Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org > Date: Friday, November 9, 2012, 8:18 AM > On 9 Nov 2012 09:53, "Beeblebrox" > <zap...@berentweb.com> > wrote: > > > > Pkgng, as a concept may be great, but it's not really > working - at least > for > > me: > > > > 1. pkg2ng conversion does not do a complete job and I > have about half of > my > > ports in purgatory or a quasi-installed state. The > program runs and is > > installed but pkgdb does not have a record for it. So > my ports updates do > a > > half-ass job. > > 2. I am used to portmaster and I accept that > portupgrade is "more ready" > to > > be used with pkgng than portmaster. However, portmaster > has the > > "--check-depends" option which I would normally use to > correct problem #1, > > alas I see no similar function in portupgrade or pkg. > The "portupgrade > -Ffu" > > and "pkg check" commands don't do the trick either. > > 3. I have some ports that I never want to install (like > accessibility/atk > or > > net/avahi). The new pkgtools.conf has a nice feature of > IGNORE_CATEGORIES > > and HOLD_PKGS which I hope will allow me to "blacklist" > those ports but I > > have my doubts as the knob is PKGS and not PORTS - so > we'll see. > Separately > > though, while trying to get my system pkgng complient > and doing updates, > > there have been some ports which were pulled in that I > whish to remove. As > > in #2, portmaster --check-depends did a nice job of > this and allowed the > > dependency to be removed from the portsdb structure - > so same problem here > > as #2. > > 4. I know how to do +IGNOREME in the portsdb and that > is a very roundabout > > way of solving an sqlite entry. > > 5. pkg add does not respect existing port version > information on the > system. > > If you try to install a package and its dependencies, > pkg tries to pull in > > its own preferred version. This happened for perl5 - I > have 5.16 already > on > > the system but pkg kept trying to install 5.14. The > only solution was to > use > > the old "pkg-add -i" to install one-by-one and without > the dependencies. > > Interesting how pkgng does not have the -i (no-deps) > option?? > > Mixing versions with binary packages is a bad idea > anyway. Packages are > built with a certain set of dependencies, and you can't mix > and match (this > has always been the case). If you want to do this, use > ports. Packages > are designed to work as a set, hence pkg upgrade just > upgrades everything > to the latest version. > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org > mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > Does that mean that, for example, when I upgraded a slew of packages ( pkg_add -f ...) that depended upon pkg-config but installed and theoretically now depending upon pkgconf, that I'd have to do them all by *ports* if using /pkg/ not /var/db/pkg? That would seriously hinder fully half of my upgrades, making them last a magnitude of hours longer each time... J. Bouquet _______________________________________________ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
