At 3:59 PM +0300 2004/03/02, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
Haven't you understand? I'm the "person who has real-world experience in running zebra in ISP environments with multiple upstreams and taking full views".
Do you have multiple connectivity to two separate metro area exchanges, with multiple upstreams at each? Most large cities are lucky to have a single major metro area exchange, and the author of bgpd for OpenBSD works at an ISP located in Hamburg which is lucky enough to have two major NAPs, and he has multiple connectivity to both. He was the one ragging on zebra/quagga. Among other things, he said he had real problems keeping sessions up with zebra/quagga when neighbors were flapping.
I know some small/medium ISP in France how are 100% zebra (or quagga) with at least 2 full net table with at least 130000 pfx
When said small they have at least an average of 10-20 Mbps. As far as i know one is 100% zebra more than 100 Mbps and seems stable.
On our side, we have a Zebra with receving 2 full table & +130 peers as a backup router without any trouble now (we have 3 cisco & 1 zebra)
0.92 & 0.93 was unstable. BGPD crash many times on peer routing table or full net table.
since 0.93b uptime wasn't broken
Our zebra router already handle more than 60 Mbps without problem and so few cpu use that's my cisco router was jalious ;)
Currently i make so use for peering with ~40 Mbps since some months and i'm very happy with it.
the design of zebra won't be interrested for have fast & evolutive solution regarding juniper or cisco 7x00 (except 7100 how is soo slow ;)
Regarding 1ghz pc vs cisco 7x00 ... bpg & routing use less cpu on pc... filter and such thing are much faster (7206vxr for example when i done some test)
However where zebra bgp daemon is so crap and so slow is when flapping or when clearing big session. But it's a design problem no ?
I would like find very usefull to have bgpd integrate into base system. But maybe i'm not very objective since i work all the day with AS/Routing.
Regarding interfaces that's PC router can deliver,
All major carrier deliver FastEthernet / GigaEthernet or 10 Gig...
OCx or Ex or Tx are mostly dead in Europe for deliver any ISP. Except Global Crossing how was the last in France, *all* major carrier deliver FastEthernet or GIG.
All gix are in E/FE/GE (lynx / ams-ix / fr : parix / freeix / sfinx etc...)
Regards,
-- Arnaud Pignard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Frontier Online - Opérateur Internet
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