Julian Elischer wrote on Monday, May 14, 2007 11:05 PM: > Andre Oppermann wrote: >> Julian Elischer wrote: >>> talk with Marko Zec about "immunes". >>> >>> http://www.tel.fer.hr/zec/vimage/ >>> and http://www.tel.fer.hr/imunes/ >>> >>> It has a complete virtualized stack for each jail. >>> ipfw, routing table, divert sockets, sysctls, statistics, netgraph >>> etc. >> >> Like I said there is a place for both approaches and they are >> complementary. A couple of hosting ISPs I know do not want to >> give a full virtualized stack to their customers. They want to >> retain full control over the network configuration inside and >> outside of the jail. In those (mass-hosting) cases it is done >> that way to ease support (less stuff users can fumble) and to >> properly position those products against full virtual machines >> and dedicated servers. Something like this: jail < vimage < >> virtual machine < dedicated server. >> >>> He as a set of patches against 7-current that now implements nearly >>> all the parts you need. It Will be discussed at the devsummit on >>> Wed/Thurs >>> and we'll be discussing whether it is suitable for general inclusion >>> or to be kept as patches. Note, it can be compiled out, which >>> leaves a pretty much binarily compatible OS, so I personally would >>> like to see it included. >> >> I don't think it is mature enough for inclusion into the upcoming >> 7.0R. Not enough integration time. Food for FreeBSD 8.0. > > Actually I am not sure I completely agree. Consider:
Me neither. Markos work started at 4.0 already, which is a *long* time ago, so I would assume a decent level of maturity in the first place. > I might add that What Marco has now is very functional > and that people should kick its tires (tyres) a bit.. Yep. Also, having this functionality would give us sort of a unique feature over "the competition". Helge Atos Origin GmbH, Theodor-Althoff-Str. 47, D-45133 Essen, Postfach 100 123, D-45001 Essen Telefon: +49 201 4305 0, Fax: +49 201 4305 689095, www.atosorigin.de Dresdner Bank AG, Hamburg: Kto. 0954411200, BLZ 200 800 00, Swift Code DRESDEFF200, IBAN DE69200800000954411200 Geschäftsführer: Dominique Illien, Handelsregister Essen HRB 19354, Ust.-ID.-Nr.: DE147861238 _______________________________________________ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
