Ivan Voras wrote:
Mike Meyer wrote:

Yes, they are present no matter what representation you use. The
question is - how do the answers change if you change the
format. These days, cross-platform means you deal with length as well
as endian issues. Or maybe you don't, depending on the db.  I know the
answers for text files (easy, easy, very, yes). Can you propose a db
scheme that gets has the same answers?

I think I don't understand the question. If the database contains number "42" in a field typed "int32", in a row, and handles endianess well, why would I get a different number on different platforms?

(A side note about sqlite: it's actually weakly typed - you store and receive strings).

I hate to tell you this, but your XML solution would still consist of
a bunch of one-of file formats for each and every purpose. Using XML
just fixes the syntax for the file, not the semantics. Settling on XML
(or JSON, or INI, or cap files, or ...) is sort of like settling on
UTF, only less obviously a win. Sure, you get to use canned code that
will turn you text file into a structure in memory. But you still have
to figure out what it all means.

As you say, the XML toolset is the real win. Smart editors,
validators, schemas (which make the editors and validators even more
powerful) are all good things. Most people don't really seem
interested in this beyond editors. That's not really much of a win.

I agree that validation in XML is a strong point - but one of the reason people like text files is that they DON'T usually have validation features :)

     |        pro                     |           contra
----------------------------------------------------------------------
 XML |   standard tools, validation,  | evil manual parsing, bad rep
     |   can embed multiple data      |
     |   structures in a standard way |
----------------------------------------------------------------------
text |   standard tools, sometimes    | no validation, manual parsing,
     |   human readable               | usually one data structure per
     |                                | file



I assume that many Database formats have functionality to convert to 'system independent' endianized fields when flushing the database to disk. That's what BDB does at least (I think that the endianness used is little endian).

-Garrett
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