On Tuesday 23 April 2002 11:13, you wrote: > On Tue, Apr 23, 2002 at 06:34:52PM +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > > Well, yes. But I've been using X for 11 years. Why should I have > > to read the man page to find changes? How do I know which man page > > to read? If I did that for everything that happened, I wouldn't > > get any work done. And you can bet your bottom dollar that > > somebody coming from another UNIX variant and trying out FreeBSD > > won't do so. They'll just say that it's broken and wander off > > again. > > FWIW, I would be extremly pissed about this myself, I just happen to > not having installed 4.5 myself yet, for other reasons. I thought > there was a policy of the least surprise, it might have been to > kernel code, but should be applied here as well.
I haven't seen your complaint anywhere... > The system has to work right away, when installed out of the box. > Period. No when's and if's. It does work. But i think you mean the tcp connections. Does that mean you vote for enabling _all_ services? They don't work out of the box as well... > And don't tell me that X11 is an add-on and luxury. I agree, but the tcp connections IS an add-on luxury imho > We are living in the 21st century. That's right, the century of virii, DoS attacks, worms, and scriptkiddiots. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message