On Tue, 6 Feb 2001, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
>Charles Randall writes:
> >The qmail FAQ specifically recommends against soft updates for the mail
> >queue.
> >
> >http://cr.yp.to/qmail/faq/reliability.html#filesystems
> >
> >Is this incorrect?
> 
> It seems to indicate that qmail doesn't use fsync(2) as much as
> it should do.  If that is true, then yes, softupdates would mean
> that a lot of things which qmail (mistakenly) think has been
> written are in fact not on the disk.

If this is true, I guess qmail can be officially considered
broken. IIRC SMTP requires you to wait until the data is on
stable (non-volatile) storage until you are allowed to return
SMTP 250...

The system call used to guarantee this is fsync (and friends?);
if qmail doesn't use it but makes assumptions that aren't true
on any decent OS out there ...

regards,

Rik
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