In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "David O'Brien" writes:
>On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 04:14:20PM -0600, Peter Seebach wrote:
>> it's not possible to just set a bit and make it work with, say, a 3C875J
>> card,

>You sure?  The PC164 that was Beast.freebsd.org had an 875 card:

Yes, sure.  The 3C875J is product id 0x8f, rather than 0xf.  It is otherwise
identical, but the vendor/product is different.

>sym0: <875> port 0x10000-0x100ff mem 0x82010000-0x82010fff,0x82011000-0x820110
>ff irq 0 at device 6.0 on pci0

Yup.  They work fine *once booted*.

The problem is in the SRM ROM.

>Its been my experience that one must use generic Symbios/LSI Logic cards.

Well, the TekRam 390F *used* to work; they changed some board feature.

>Many of the other manufacturers tweak the PCI id, or augment it (this is
>why Diamond Symbios SCSI cards will not work in a PC164SX).

Yup.  And, if the SRM ROM came even just as uncompressed data, it'd be
fixable.

>You can find
>Symbios branded 875 cards in eBay for about $25.  Qlogic 1040 cards (the
>stock card in Miata MX5's) for $30.

I may go looking.  I have a passel of '875 cards that *don't* work, for
one reason or another.  The symptom is, the card "probes" (it is identified
by the SRM console as an '875 rather than getting only product/vendor ID), but
the SRM console doesn't think there's any devices on it, not even a SCSI
bus.

>Does this include if you use one of the new ATA-100 PCI controllers in it?

SRM won't boot from those.

>If you'd be willing to donate it to a FreeBSD developer, I have a home
>for it. :-)

Tempting, but I'm actually planning to set it up running FreeBSD, so I can
have a matched pair of BSD Alpha systems.  (Just waiting for my 4.2 Alpha
CD to show up in the mail).

-s


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