On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 16:25:12 -0600, Matthew D. Fuller <fulle...@over-yonder.net> wrote:

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 02:50:08PM -0600 I heard the voice of
Mark Felder, and lo! it spake thus:

I've seen  several other things hit -STABLE right after the freeze
ended early  January which surprise me that they weren't included in
-RELEASE and we  didn't have another RC.

You mean the 9.0-RELEASE that's scheduled to be done (after having
already slipped a month) at the beginning of Sept 2011?  At some point
(well before those add'l patches you're talking about, IMO) you have
to STOP and release the damn thing already.



Yeah, but how much sense does it make to do a -RELEASE with critical bugs? For example, gmultipath guarantees a panic on various hardware just by breaking a path. This was fixed in a full rewrite discussed this summer and publicized in November. Now anyone with shiny 9.0 (or even 8.2) running gmultipath risks a panic. The fix IS the rewrite. But it's s total rewrite and so patching that onto 9.0 as errata doesn't really make sense (rewrite adds features too), so now the choices for a stable gmultipath is -STABLE or patiently waiting for 9.1.

So yeah, 9.0 slipped hard. Perhaps it should have slipped a bit further until blockers like gmultipath and the cdrom/CAM stuff were fully addressed. But it's impossible to release 100% bug free software.... where exactly *do* you draw the line? :-/

I certainly would not be better than anyone else at managing any portion of this project. I'm just glad I have the ability to find and apply fixes myself when necessary.
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