On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 05:43:58PM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 07:24:58AM -0800, Eivind Eklund wrote: > [...] > > > Okay, here's my question: what is/was so bad about pppd + natd? > > > > Generating >10% of the total support load for FreeBSD on IRC is so bad > > about it. And I can't give you a better answer than that, because I > > haven't supported it in 3.5 years and do not remember what problems > > people were having - and if it had been a single problem or two (as > > you imply with your questions), I'd have SOLVED THOSE PROBLEMS rather > > than going for the blanket. > > > So you can't recall a single specific problem, other than saying they > were.
There were no problems *per se* - there is nothing that inherently doesn't work with the configuration. I could say some people had problems configuring divert sockets. I could say some people had problems getting ipfw to work at all. I could say some people had problems with not having supplied -dynamic to natd. I could say some people didn't discover the -n option to natd. I could say some people had problems writing the script for pppd. I could say some people had problems with their kernel not containing the ppp device. And I could wring my brain to find more examples. However, I didn't see this as much of a point, because it does NOT add to the overall point: There was a bunch of small problems that in total resulted in the this configuration leading to a bunch of support. > Okay, then how about querying our current FreeBSD users about > it? It's that simple: > > Dear users of pppd(8) + natd(8), if there are any. Do you have/had > any problems using this combination? I'd appreciate both successful > and unfortunate reports, to improve documentation. I don't believe you'll get any relevant responses to that. Besides, I'm not interested. I know the problem is there, as I've seen it. You don't believe me when I tell you that it is there - that's your choice. This is not an issue I care enough about to spent more energy on. And I'm not active enough that I feel I have any right to any form of veto. Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message