Am 2025-01-28 21:09, schrieb Maxim Sobolev:

<sarcasm>Discussed between 3 people, creating the problem for 3,000. Great!</sarcasm>

Sorry, but sarcasm doesn't help here. In the light of a lot of hot talk (and more) all around the globe, feel free to go the open source way and provide a patch. We all want to improve FreeBSD, sometimes it works on first try, sometimes we need to try more often.

Bye,
Alexander.

-Max

On Tue, Jan 28, 2025, 7:05 PM Alexander Leidinger <alexan...@leidinger.net> wrote:

Am 2025-01-28 18:32, schrieb Maxim Sobolev:

I also think this should be reverted back to default. "-n" refers to IP to name functionality, "default" is clearly a special case. If someone wants it, some other option can be added to emit 0.0.0.0/0 [1] (not sure why but ok).

This was discussed in the review referenced in the commit. The -nn proposal was there too. Personally I agree with the rationales in favor of "-nn".

Bye,
Alexander.

-Max

On Tue, Jan 28, 2025, 5:46 PM Gleb Smirnoff <gleb...@freebsd.org> wrote: On Sun, Jan 26, 2025 at 04:58:57PM +0100, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
A> something has changed in the output of "netstat -rn" between
A> 2024-11-23-195545 and 2025-01-22-151306. The default route is not listed as A> "default" anymore, but with "0.0.0.0" resp. "::/0". This breaks some tools A> (e.g. iocage). Iocage uses python, I'm not sure if it uses netstat or some A> other interface, so it may not be directly related to netstat itself but
A> could be related to some other stuff (netlink maybe?).
A>
A> Does this ring a bell for someone?

This is very likely changed by 9206c79961986c2114a9a2cfccf009ac010ad259.

Allan, may be make exclusion for the "default" to keep POLA? Otherwise,
indeed at time of 15.0-RELEASE we will receive some negative feedback :)

Maybe double -nn should introduce new behavior?

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