Chuck Burns wrote:
On 11/9/2012 4:16 PM, Brett wrote:
> >> Message: 11
> >> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 23:34:58 +0800
> >> From: Doug Brewer <brewer.d...@gmail.com>
> >> To: Adrian Chadd <adr...@freebsd.org>
> >> Cc: a...@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Tinderbox <tinder...@freebsd.org>,
> >>    curr...@freebsd.org
> >> Subject: Re: [head tinderbox] failure on arm/arm
> >> Message-ID:
> >>    <cag0v13tpalmdpg-8rifcjjroxz948mqzjnn1yvqz4teybjz...@mail.gmail.com>
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> >>
> >> No offence, but how many times did you break the build? Could you please
> >> compile your code before committing next time? Thanks a lot!
> >>
> >
> > Just an observation: a few years ago when I got sick of Linux's "headlong 
> > rush" development model, I subscribed to various BSD mailing lists to see 
> > what else was out there. I considered FreeBSD at the time - there was a 
> > neverending avalanche of "[head tinderbox] failure" messages. This told me 
> > that I would be more likely to be running code written by people who knew 
> > what they were doing if I went with Open, Net, or DragonflyBSD.
> >
> > I safely run OpenBSD-current on my main computer and it always works (I 
> > think I have had 2-3 build problems in about 3 years, and they were all my 
> > fault). At the moment, I only feel confident enough with FreeBSD-current to 
> > run it on my unimportant torrent computer. This is 80% due to constant 
> > build failures, and 20% due to invasive changes being introduced with 
> > documentation/instructions scattered over many different pages and mailing 
> > lists, e.g:
> >
> > http://wiki.freebsd.org/FrontPage?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=xorg&titlesearch=Titles
> >
> > http://wiki.freebsd.org/FrontPage?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=pkgng&titlesearch=Titles
> >
> > Hypothetical user: "Is it WITHOUT_PKGNG= or WITHOUT_PKGNG=yes or 
> > WITH_PKGNG=no today?"
> >
> > I wonder how many other people that you never hear from feel the same, and 
> > if some sort of "x weeks commit freezeout" should apply to the build 
> > breakers. Cute pointy hats or whatever obviously have no effect.
> >
> > Rant over!
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> Quite honestly, the head/current branch is going to have build
> failures.. It's the test bed..

YOU'VE GOTTA BE KIDDING ME.

> Stick with the release system unless you
> want cutting edge.. just remember.. cutting edge cuts sometimes...
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