On Saturday, 24 July 1999 at 20:51:37 -0500, Kevin Day wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Jul 1999, Kevin Day wrote:
>>
>>> For one, do another 'ps' with the 'l' option, so you can see what it's stuck
>>> on.
>>
>>   UID   PID  PPID CPU PRI NI   VSZ  RSS WCHAN  STAT  TT       TIME COMMAND
>>  1000  1103  1086  29  75 20  5740  384 -      TWN   ??    0:00.00 (kvt)
>>  1000  1109  1103   0   4  0  1504    0 ttywri IWs+  p1    0:00.00 (tcsh)
>>
>>  1000 92724  1086 279 105 20  5736  356 -      RN    ??  139:40.13 kvt -T Termi
>>  1000 92743 92724   2  18  0  1576    0 pause  IWs   p8    0:00.00 (tcsh)
>>
>>> The second process is a zombie, which isn't killable until the parent tells
>>> it to go away. (Which could very possibly be the first kvt)
>>
>> Both still present empty terminal windows on my desktop and were spawned
>> from the KDE panel. The second one was running a copy of pine and was in
>> the same state as the other initially, until I kill -KILL'ed the pine
>> process, at which point it changed to what it is now.
>
> Well, since the CPU time in the active process (92724) went up since your
> last e-mail, and it's in the RUN state (a - in the WCHAN and a R in the
> STAT), it looks like the process is just spinning, eating CPU.

Right.

> The tcsh listed below that is a zombie of the running kvt. 

There aren't any zombies here.  

It's a child of the kvt.  It's not a zombie.  Take a look at the STAT
field (and ps(1)): process 

Process 1103 is stopped (debug?).  That's the T.  It's also swapped
(W) and nice (N), which you can also see from the NI (nice) field.

Process 1109 is idle, swapped and a foreground process of a process
group.

Process 92724 is runnable, nice and running (no WCHAN).  I really
don't understand why you can't stop this one.

Process 92743 is idle, swapped and a session leader.

> This seems to be more of a kvt bug than a freebsd bug. :)

I don't see that either.  The fact that process 1103 is stopped is one
thing; is there a gdb process in sight?

Greg
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