On Sat, 24 Jul 1999, Kevin Day wrote:
> > > For one, do another 'ps' with the 'l' option, so you can see what it's stuck
> > > on.
> >
> > UID PID PPID CPU PRI NI VSZ RSS WCHAN STAT TT TIME COMMAND
> > 1000 1103 1086 29 75 20 5740 384 - TWN ?? 0:00.00 (kvt)
> > 1000 1109 1103 0 4 0 1504 0 ttywri IWs+ p1 0:00.00 (tcsh)
> >
> > 1000 92724 1086 279 105 20 5736 356 - RN ?? 139:40.13 kvt -T Termi
> > 1000 92743 92724 2 18 0 1576 0 pause IWs p8 0:00.00 (tcsh)
> >
> > > The second process is a zombie, which isn't killable until the parent tells
> > > it to go away. (Which could very possibly be the first kvt)
> >
> > Both still present empty terminal windows on my desktop and were spawned
> > from the KDE panel. The second one was running a copy of pine and was in
> > the same state as the other initially, until I kill -KILL'ed the pine
> > process, at which point it changed to what it is now.
> >
> > Kris
>
> Well, since the CPU time in the active process (92724) went up since your
> last e-mail, and it's in the RUN state (a - in the WCHAN and a R in the
> STAT), it looks like the process is just spinning, eating CPU.
Correct. Yet I cannot kill -9 it.
> The tcsh listed below that is a zombie of the running kvt. If you can
> somehow kill that kvt, the tcsh will go away.
I can't kill -9 any of the processes listed above.
> The top kvt (1103) is also a zombie, waiting for it's parent to reap it.
> Whatever process 1086 is decided not to clean it up, you may want to see
> what it's doing.
That's kfm.
> Will process 92724 die if you kill -9 it?
No. Yet it continues to run and chew up CPU..
> This seems to be more of a kvt bug than a freebsd bug. :)
I don't doubt it's mediated by KDE in some way, but I didn't think it was
possible for processes to trap or ignore SIGKILLs and continue to run
(chew up CPU). Zombie processes I can deal with, even if the window
manager continues to present a window for them :-)
Kris
> Kevin
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