Hi,

On Sun, 6 Oct 2013 05:06:02 -0400
Mehmet Erol Sanliturk <m.e.sanlit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 3:45 AM, Erich Dollansky
> <erichsfreebsdl...@alogt.com
> > wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 07:55:10 +0100
> > Matthew Seaman <matt...@freebsd.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On 06/10/2013 05:01, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> > > > this type is called 'design'. As an engineer I do the software
> > > > behind an website but I do not dare to make the design. Ok, I
> > > > tell the designer, when I think the design could be improved
> > > > but I do not dare th change it myself.
> > >
> > > The trick is to realise that site design is simply another form of
> > > engineering, albeint with rather different contexts and
> > > constraints than writing software.
> > >
> > > Writing a website so that the users can interact with it readily,
> > > find and understand what they wat, avoid frustration and have a
> > > pleasant overall experience is conceptually much the same sort of
> > > thing as writing a website so it doesn't hog server resources or
> > > continually fail ungracefully or have a badly indexed sub-optimal
> > > database schema. Basically you want it to do it's job efficiently
> > > and smoothly, whether 'it' is the back-end server code, or the
> > > on-screen presentation.
> > >
> > > Granted, optimizing sites for human interaction is a whole
> > > different skill set, but it's not some holy task that only some
> > > annointed designer with the mandate of heaven can undertake.
> >
> > yes, it is not rocket science but - as you said - a different skill
> > set.
> >
> > Erich
> >
> 
> 
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_engineering
> 
> The first sentence :
> 
> *Software engineering* (*SE*) is the application of a systematic,

this is the mistake made here. We - at least me - talk about this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_design

Nobody mentioned the software behind. Only the search function is
mentioned very often as being behind current standards.

Erich

> disciplined, quantifiable approach to the design, development,
> operation, and maintenance of software
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software>, and the study of these
> approaches; that is, the application of
> engineering<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineering>to
> software.<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_engineering#cite_note-BoDu04-1>
> 
> 
> Thank you very much .
> 
> Mehmet Erol Sanliturk

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