On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 2:53 AM Sébastien Wilmet <swil...@gnome.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> There are a number of GNOME or GNOME-related project fundraisings:
>
> For GIMP:
>         https://www.gimp.org/donating/
>         https://www.patreon.com/pippin
>         http://film.zemarmot.net/en/
>
> PulseAudio: https://www.patreon.com/tanuk
> GTK+, Corebird, ...: https://www.patreon.com/baedert
> And now GtkSourceView: https://liberapay.com/GtkSourceView/
>
> (Are there others?)
>
> Those projects are useful to GNOME. But none of them have reached their
> funding goals. GNOME has a nice website, it would be nice to highlight
> the above fundraisings on the website, and/or writing a news article,
> talking about them on social media, etc.
>
> But… when someone donates to one of the above fundraisings, the GNOME
> Foundation doesn't receive any money. So there would be in some way a
> "competiton" with https://www.gnome.org/support-gnome/ . So maybe the
> GNOME Foundation doesn't want to highlight other fundraisings on the
> website. But this would come in conflict with the goal of the GNOME
> Foundation which is to "further the goals of the GNOME Project".
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
> Sébastien
>
> PS: I'm the author of the GtkSourceView fundraising.
>

Let me mention first that I'm merely a person with an opinion, with no role
in the GNOME foundation, and my assumptions about how things work may well
be wrong :-)

I definitely wish you and the other fundraisers much success! Don't get me
wrong, I do support such things, and I have donated sometimes! But I think
for GNOME to structurally highlight these would create inequality between
GNOME projects (or even individual GNOME contributors, in the case of
personal Patreons) where setting up a fundraiser is required to "compete"
under the GNOME umbrella. Some inequality already exists because it's
easier to get donations for a visible end product such as an app, rather
than plumbing such as a platform library, or a thankless task such as
keeping builds green on Continuous, and I wouldn't want GNOME to magnify
that difference. (I do hope you prove me wrong with your fundraiser for
GtkSourceView.)

I disagree with your statement that _not_ highlighting these fundraisers
would come into conflict with the goal to "further the goals of the GNOME
project." Furthering the goals of the GNOME project does not mean
exhaustively taking every possible action that might help those goals by
any amount, no matter how big or small.

In my opinion, GNOME should spend its resources strategically on what helps
GNOME the most (and maybe that is a GNOME project's or individual's
fundraiser in some cases), and for that reason I'd rather GNOME continue to
promote donations for the foundation itself rather than for projects or
individuals.

Regards,
Philip C
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