On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 2:24 AM, Alexandre Franke
<alexandre.fra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 1:59 AM, Fabiano Fidêncio <fabi...@fidencio.org> wrote:
>>> Can you be more explicit about what you mean with "tools used to do
>>> your/the bank transactions run nonfree software"
>>
>> AFAIU, when you do a bank transfer, the job responsible for your
>> transaction will be executed in the next scheduled period.
>> There are people monitoring and scheduling it (most likely not using
>> free software for this), there is a system on where it is being
>> running (same here ...).
>
> According to the GNU/FSF advocacy, in the case of a service it is ok
> not to have access to the source code since you're not the one running
> the software. 
> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/network-services-arent-free-or-nonfree.fr.html

Thanks for the link.

>
>> And I'm really wondering how much these random comments about "not
>> good, not free software" coming from and with no real suggestions can
>> help instead of just generate noise and silly discussions like this
>> one.
>
> You're mislead about the intentions of people caring about software
> freedom. Your stance is that they should not be so focused on their
> cause, but maybe you should be a bit more open as well and consider
> their points and reasoning rather than just outright claiming it is
> noise.

I understand their points and I also would love if they could come
with a suggestion/an option/an idea/a new way to solve the problem,
instead of just pointing them.

>
> Quite frankly, people that act like that are as tiresome as they claim RMS is.
>
>> Hmm. Didn't get good examples from "moot" in the Urban Dictionary
>> (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=moot).
>> Maybe it should be used a bit more carefully. :-)
>
> Or maybe you should be more careful with the sources you use as
> references. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/moot adjective, third
> definition:
> (North America) Having no practical impact or relevance. "That point
> may make for a good discussion, but it is moot"
> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/moot 1b has a similar definition. I
> guess any respectable dictionary will have one.

Yeah, I've checked a proper dictionary before, that's the reason I've
asked you what did you mean, because it was still not clear to me.

Best Regards,
-- 
Fabiano Fidêncio
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